Gas boilers to be banned

parking_question_chap

in new build houses by 2025, but as yet no plans on what will replace them. On the plus at least new build houses will no stop having an over inflated price tag attched to them in future, when nobody wants to buy one.

James_Green_1982

Maybe the plan is for communal heating systems for the new estates?
Powered by rubbish incineration etc.
I've read that in some countries the water is heated by an estate boiler / heat source and then delivered 'hot' (or probably warm, by the time it gets through the pipes) to the individual houses.

Maybe then 'top-up' with electrical heating system?

If it's a cheaper system, I don't see why that would drop the cost of a new build house using it?

[Deleted User]

How do you work out that not having gas boilers will stop overinflated new build house prices? You do realise that new house sellers don't calculate house prices based on what sort of boiler is installed but other factors (like charging what they feel they can get away with or in their lingo "what the market will bear")?

James_Green_1982

deannatrois wrote: »

How do you work out that not having gas boilers will stop overinflated new build house prices? You do realise that new house sellers don't calculate house prices based on what sort of boiler is installed but other factors (like charging what they feel they can get away with or in their lingo "what the market will bear")?

Presumably the OP thinks the alternative to gas boilers will be less popular.
That may be true of alternatives such as purely electrical heating (which is expensive - but can sometimes be the best option for flats - especially if the occupant isn't in much).

Dean000000

This would presumably make new build houses more expensive to purchase - perhaps offset by cheaper running costs

Central plant won’t come cheap - nor will the developers want to lose out in potential letting space

Slithery

That's fine by me.

Hopefully I'll have finished building before then but if not there's no gas in my village anyway

Carrot007

deannatrois wrote: »

How do you work out that not having gas boilers will stop overinflated new build house prices? You do realise that new house sellers don't calculate house prices based on what sort of boiler is installed but other factors (like charging what they feel they can get away with or in their lingo "what the market will bear")?

Because the market value for a electric heated property is less.


Of course mandatory solar panels or something might offset it.


So yes they obviously do price according to the heating method.


New or old houses a few villages over are much cheaper than here becuase they do not have gas (and prices here increased 50% (or more) when gas was installed).


YMMV.

parking_question_chap

James_Green_1982 wrote: »

Maybe the plan is for communal heating systems for the new estates?
Powered by rubbish incineration etc.
I've read that in some countries the water is heated by an estate boiler / heat source and then delivered 'hot' (or probably warm, by the time it gets through the pipes) to the individual houses.

Im guessing you dont realise how much an incineration plant costs to build and maintain. And if it was even financially viable;
Who is in charge of fuelling it?
Who is responsible for carrying out repairs?
Who is responsible for paying for repairs
Not to mention the health and safety issues.

Being reliant on a communal energy system for dwellings is a logistical nightmare.

If a suitably green method of providing heat to homes exists, that can be installed for each individual home then I am all for it, problem is, it doesnt.

James_Green_1982

Houses can easily be worth less than the sum of their parts - plus labour.
Just add up the cost of new central heating, electrics, double glazing, rendering etc.
Before you know it you can easily hit £60k.

The rebuild value for a mid-terraced house (for buildings insurance) can be less than its market sale value. Obviously re-building a mid-terraced house is more expensive than building it in the first place -due to the access and reduced cost of buying in bulk when the street was built.

James_Green_1982

parking_question_chap wrote: »

Im guessing you dont realise how much an incineration plant costs to build and maintain. And if it was even financially viable;
Who is in charge of fuelling it?
Who is responsible for carrying out repairs?
Who is responsible for paying for repairs
Not to mention the health and safety issues.

Being reliant on a communal energy system for dwellings is a logistical nightmare.

If a suitably green method of providing heat to homes exists, that can be installed for each individual home then I am all for it, problem is, it doesnt.

There is a communal heating system in Dyffryn Newport I believe. Plus quite a few incineration systems in Europe. The rubbish is being burned anyway.

shortcrust

Can’t help but think “not going to happen”. Am I a realist or is this further confirmation that I’m a creature of yesterday?

Edit to add: I’m in Sheffield and I think our rubbish is incinerated, providing heating and hot water to quite a few public buildings and to some housing. But it’s a very small proportion of the city’s needs.