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  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    What I would say is this. Link detached is actually terraced. You can't get from the front to the backgarden without going through the house or the garage. That is actually a terraced house.



    Now how much would you like to pay for a terraced house? How much do terraced houses sell for?



    I think your vendor could be trying to sell the house for a price nearer to a detached which it isn't rather than a terrace which it is.



    If you find sold prices for terraced houses in the same area and add a bit because it is terraced by garages rather than by rooms and you can easily find out how much over priced it is and why it hasn't sold.



    Calling them link detached is a marketing ploy to make them sound like detached houses which they aren't. They actually are not as good to live in as a semi because of the access to the back garden thing.
  • KatieDee
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    edited 10 March 2019 at 7:46PM
    Cakeguts wrote: »
    What I would say is this. Link detached is actually terraced. You can't get from the front to the backgarden without going through the house or the garage. That is actually a terraced house.



    Now how much would you like to pay for a terraced house? How much do terraced houses sell for?



    I think your vendor could be trying to sell the house for a price nearer to a detached which it isn't rather than a terrace which it is.



    If you find sold prices for terraced houses in the same area and add a bit because it is terraced by garages rather than by rooms and you can easily find out how much over priced it is and why it hasn't sold.



    Calling them link detached is a marketing ploy to make them sound like detached houses which they aren't. They actually are not as good to live in as a semi because of the access to the back garden thing.

    Thank you for the reply, Cakeguts :D

    There aren't really many terraced houses for sale in the area, so it's a bit difficult to say.

    A house on the same street, which is categorised as a terrace on Zoopla, sold for £200,000 in December 2017, so not a million miles off what we're offering. It is around 15 square meters bigger though, and has a bigger garden, but the one we're looking at has more living space in the living room/dining room and isn't pebbledashed!

    The benefit of the house we're looking at is that the house isn't touching another wall when it comes to the upstairs. It isn't a detached obviously and I appreciate it's just clever terminology calling it a link detached, but we do see this as a small advantage. Not enough to pay extra for though! Access to the back isn't a huge benefit to me and I'd be a bit worried about security anyway - although I can definitely see why most people would prefer it.
  • Davesnave
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    KatieDee wrote: »
    They must be particular annoying if they manage to cause issues over that distance :rotfl:
    The distance from our house to that neighbour is 225m, but our property ends at the back of their garage. It becomes a problem when you discover they've somehow spirited a telegraph pole out their garden and onto your land so they can build said garage!


    Garden :D
    That garden looks as if it will get evening sun as well as sun in the early morning. Sun all day isn't necessary for enjoying a garden, especially as it's important to keep children out of strong sunshine. The first thing we had to do here was create some shade.
  • KatieDee
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    That garden looks as if it will get evening sun as well as sun in the early morning. Sun all day isn't necessary for enjoying a garden, especially as it's important to keep children out of strong sunshine. The first thing we had to do here was create some shade.

    Aww, thanks Davesnave :D

    I've spent the entire night scouring photos, looking at other properties in the area, discussing the pros and cons. I think I'd kind of mixed together my anxiety about the previous house, my disappointment about the one we missed out on, and just generally feeling quite pressured by myself to find somewhere.

    I do love that house. It isn't perfect, but on our budget we're not going to find anything that is. The issues with it are all, at least in my opinion, negligible. It's a beautiful house, with lots of space, that I can move into and settle in. The area is lovely, the neighbours seem nice and it's about 30 yards from the other house we offered on. Going to go ahead with the offer tomorrow morning and if it's refused, I think I will move on - the important thing is knowing what you think it's worth and not getting carried away.

    I know I sound like I'm trying to convince myself and I guess I am. Appreciate your comments though :D
  • Cakeguts
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    KatieDee wrote: »
    Thank you for the reply, Cakeguts :D

    There aren't really many terraced houses for sale in the area, so it's a bit difficult to say.

    A house on the same street, which is categorised as a terrace on Zoopla, sold for £200,000 in December 2017, so not a million miles off what we're offering. It is around 15 square meters bigger though, and has a bigger garden, but the one we're looking at has more living space in the living room/dining room and isn't pebbledashed!

    The benefit of the house we're looking at is that the house isn't touching another wall when it comes to the upstairs. It isn't a detached obviously and I appreciate it's just clever terminology calling it a link detached, but we do see this as a small advantage. Not enough to pay extra for though! Access to the back isn't a huge benefit to me and I'd be a bit worried about security anyway - although I can definitely see why most people would prefer it.


    Depends what the front garden is like whether you mind about access. Our house has a front and backgarden with a lawn and flower beds. If you have this then the lawnmower and all the gardening equipment has to either go through the house or the garage as do any plants or any manure you buy or garden furniture.



    It also affects where you put the dustbin. If the kitchen is in the back of the house do you put the bin in the backgarden and then wheel it through the house or do you leave it in the front garden where it can be used as a means of getting onto the garage roof by people you don't want on your garage roof.
  • KatieDee
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    Depends what the front garden is like whether you mind about access. Our house has a front and backgarden with a lawn and flower beds. If you have this then the lawnmower and all the gardening equipment has to either go through the house or the garage as do any plants or any manure you buy or garden furniture.



    It also affects where you put the dustbin. If the kitchen is in the back of the house do you put the bin in the backgarden and then wheel it through the house or do you leave it in the front garden where it can be used as a means of getting onto the garage roof by people you don't want on your garage roof.

    It does have a little front garden, but I think over time I would probably change to something easier to manage Maybe pebbles and shrubbery? I genuinely hadn't thought about that though :eek:

    The roofs on the converted garages are all peaked roofs, so I don't think they'd be that easy to climb - even if they did, I can't think where they would get access to the house (other than the garden...which is still worrying!). See, this is why these forums are amazing - this hadn't crossed my mind.

    As soon as I make one decision, one of you says something that makes me rethink it :rotfl:
  • Cakeguts
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    KatieDee wrote: »
    It does have a little front garden, but I think over time I would probably change to something easier to manage Maybe pebbles and shrubbery? I genuinely hadn't thought about that though :eek:

    The roofs on the converted garages are all peaked roofs, so I don't think they'd be that easy to climb - even if they did, I can't think where they would get access to the house (other than the garden...which is still worrying!). See, this is why these forums are amazing - this hadn't crossed my mind.

    As soon as I make one decision, one of you says something that makes me rethink it :rotfl:


    The access thing is why it is always better to think of link detached as terraced rather than detached. It has all the disadvantages of being a terraced house without any of the advantages of being detached.



    Even if you make the front garden easier to manage anything you buy for the backgarden, plants, compost, manure, has to go through either the house or the garage. If you convert the garage then it is all going to go through the house.



    We have 3 bins, garden waste, general waste and recycling. In a terraced house those are likely to be kept in the front garden because of the problem of taking them through the house or the garage.



    How much do you want to pay for a house like this?
  • tom9980
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  • Cakeguts
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    When you viewed. Did you go down to the bottom of the garden and look over the fence? Some terraced houses have a back access and so do some linked detached houses. So the back garden might be less secure than you think.
  • KatieDee
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    When you viewed. Did you go down to the bottom of the garden and look over the fence? Some terraced houses have a back access and so do some linked detached houses. So the back garden might be less secure than you think.

    The garden is surrounded by conifers and seems to back onto the next streets back gardens, so as far as I understand there is no access.

    You could, I suppose, nip through the converted garage room, through the kitchen and then into the garden, but I'm not sure what we'd do.

    For the area, the price is relatively average. Not much comes up, so it's hard to judge. Considering the other house we went for was £195,000 and needed a complete revamp (although it had side access, but a smaller garden and floor space), I don't think our offer is that over the top.
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