Landlord wants to change door

infiltrator

Hi,

Sorry, I'm a newbie, so if I'm in the wrong place, I apologise.

I have a landlord that has told me that he intends to replace my wooden front door with a UPVC one.

I'm not overly happy with it anyway, as he's not replacing it with a "front" door, but more of a back door one that is half glass, and I will lose a lot of privacy. However, i can probably deal with that.

My main issue is that the door that he intends to fit will come with a UPVC "frame" for the door to fit into. This means that the overall size of the opening is smaller.

I am, probably, going to move out this year. I've asked him to wait until I do go, but he has refused saying that it's been paid for and the work must be done.

As some of my furniture came in to the house, and only just fitted through the current opening, I have some very deep reservations about it going out through the new opening.

Where do I stand? I get that he can replace the door. It's his place. But, when I come to move out, and my stuff won't fit through, who is liable for any costs in removing the door and frame and then replacing it after and making good?

I've put all of this in an email, but all he says is that it'll probably be ok, in his experience removal firms are really good at getting stuff out. however, if the firm can't get the stuff out, and refuses to remove the door to get it out, although the landlord has said in an email that he might be able to get someone out to do it, he is giving no guarantees.

What about consequential losses? Suppose the removals go without some of the bigger stuff, and I have to pay someone else later on to fetch it?

I'm really stressing about all of this.

I've put all these questions to him via email, but he simply does not answer them, only that in his experience it will all "be fine".

What do I do to make things watertight?

Thanks

G_M

Dear Mr landlord,

I'm afraid that I am unhappy about the limited reassurances you have given me, together with the choice of replacement door. Consequently I would prefer to keep the existing front door.

As you are aware, I amplanning on moving out later in the year, and obviously that would be an ideal opportunity for you to make improvements to the property.

I apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

Yours sincerely,

Infiltrator

What do I do to make things watertight?

That throw-away remark suggests you may have complained and asked for an improvemet, which kind of changes things! The LL is doing this for you perhaps??

Mr.Generous

Is there a big double glazed window that can be removed to get stuff out? Internally beaded sealed units are far easier to remove than a door frame.

Thrugelmir

infiltrator wrote: »

I have a landlord that has told me that he intends to replace my wooden front door with a UPVC one.

I'm not overly happy with it anyway, as he's not replacing it with a "front" door, but more of a back door one that is half glass, and I will lose a lot of privacy. However, i can probably deal with that.

May not meet insurance requirements as it currently stands. Did you insure your contents?

G_M

Thrugelmir wrote: »

May not meet insurance requirements as it currently stands. [STRIKE]Did you insure your contents?[/STRIKE]

Advise your landlord it may/does not meet your insure's requirements.

dimbo61

So the Landlord is going to spend what £800/1000+ on buying and having a new front door fitted.
This will improve Security by being a 5 lever locking door as required by most insurance companies, Improve insulation and therefore make your hallway warmer/ reduce your heating bills.
Make it easier for you to exit in the event of a Fire and look nicer than a old warped wooden door which requires regular maintenance.
Your Not Happy as the opening MIGHT be smaller !!!!
You can always fit a curtain behind the glass if you think someone might press there face against the glass in the door

infiltrator

G_M wrote: »

Dear Mr landlord,

I'm afraid that I am unhappy about the limited reassurances you have given me, together with the choice of replacement door. Consequently I would prefer to keep the existing front door.

As you are aware, I amplanning on moving out later in the year, and obviously that would be an ideal opportunity for you to make improvements to the property.

I apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

Yours sincerely,

Infiltrator



That throw-away remark suggests you may have complained and asked for an improvemet, which kind of changes things! The LL is doing this for you perhaps??

Thanks for the reply.

This is, most definitley, not something that I have ever asked for, complained about, or had any notion that it was even on the cards.

I have asked him to wait until I move, but the answer is that it must be done now. He has a number of properties, and he has paid for new doors for each and wants them done.

No matter how many times I've asked him to wait, I get the same answer. I've delayed as much as I can, but no matter how many times I write, he simply never answers the questions I've asked.

Does the fact that I've asked him if he will cover consequential losses etc and he has ignored the questions mean that I'll have a stronger case if it should, god forbid, end up in court?

infiltrator

Mr.Generous wrote: »

Is there a big double glazed window that can be removed to get stuff out? Internally beaded sealed units are far easier to remove than a door frame.

No, just a front door and a back door.

The front door is a heavy wooden door. The back door is just a standard back door type, half UPVC half glass.

Both are multipoint locking.

infiltrator

dimbo61 wrote: »

So the Landlord is going to spend what £800/1000+ on buying and having a new front door fitted.
This will improve Security by being a 5 lever locking door as required by most insurance companies, Improve insulation and therefore make your hallway warmer/ reduce your heating bills.
Make it easier for you to exit in the event of a Fire and look nicer than a old warped wooden door which requires regular maintenance.
Your Not Happy as the opening MIGHT be smaller !!!!
You can always fit a curtain behind the glass if you think someone might press there face against the glass in the door

OK, I get your point.....I've already said I can do something about the privacy.

The answer is that the opening WILL be smaller. There is no doubt about it. The door is the same type as the rear door and as some of my stuff only just came in through the wider opening front door, it WILL NOT go out when the opening is made smaller. That's just a fact.

The current door does meet any and all requirements and, as we are likely to be gone within 9 months, the risk on any maintenance on the door is negligible.

G_M

Just send the letter then change the locks.


If /when contractors turn up, send them away.

[Deleted User]

Hi,


can you move sooner, before door job?


If not, can you remove the 'big stuff' now to storage, and get something to 'keep you going' until final flit?