Landlord wants to change door

McKneff

Arent doors a standard size

kinger101

McKneff wrote: »

Arent doors a standard size

Sometimes, but not always. I've had to replace one that didn't seem to be a standard size after the police unlocked it with their big red key.

Carrot007

McKneff wrote: »

Arent doors a standard size

No, all door are made to fit. "Standard" size (there is really not one) doors are rare.


The size of the opening (and this is both indoor doors and outdoor doors) muchly depends on who built the property and when. This changes at any point they feel it is reasonable.


This is why changing a doot is not an easy task. Indoor and you need one big enoug hand then cut to size. Outdoor and you pretty much need is custom built.


No reason a upvc doot should not be as large as a wooden one though. Unless the landlord is getting something cheap and uses extra surrounding to fill the space. As is the problem with "off the shelf" doors. (which really save nothing as the surroundings still need cut to fit).




Same with windows.

MrsR1234

So would you not have moved in, had the door been smaller at that time?

I can honestly say a door has never been a consideration when viewing properties. Furniture can generally be dismantled. Alternatively it's not uncommon to remove window frames to pass large pieces through.

I think it's unreasonable to expect the landlord to wait to fit a new door until you 'may' leave later in the year.

Norman_Castle

The door is the same type as the rear door and as some of my stuff only just came in through the wider opening front door, it WILL NOT go out when the opening is made smaller. That's just a fact.

If you can remember what only just came in measure it and measure your current frame then you will know factually how tight it was. The difference between old and new frame may be smaller than you think.

ReadingTim

infiltrator wrote: »

The answer is that the opening WILL be smaller. There is no doubt about it. The door is the same type as the rear door and as some of my stuff only just came in through the wider opening front door, it WILL NOT go out when the opening is made smaller. That's just a fact.

Without measuring, down to the millimetre, the current width, the new width, and whatever bits of furniture you're worried about, it is not a "fact", it is a wild guess.

societys_child

My main issue is that the door that he intends to fit will come with a UPVC "frame" for the door to fit into. This means that the overall size of the opening is smaller.

The old door and old wooden frame will be removed and the uPVC fitted into the opening. ie fastened to the brickwork. uPVC frames are often thinner than the old wooden frames and you could in fact end up with a larger opening.


Edit:

it WILL NOT go out when the opening is made smaller. That's just a fact.

Why do you think the opening will be smaller? What fact are you referring to . . ?

societys_child

Carrot007 wrote: »

This is why changing a doot is not an easy task. Indoor and you need one big enoug hand then cut to size. Outdoor and you pretty much need is custom built.

My nephew made doors and windows, his brother had an industrial unit next door, producing the double glazed units.


And you're correct, everything they produced was made to order (for the trade). There aren't really any "standard size" doors or windows. Custom building was not a problem, it's what they did . . day in, day out.



The only thing that ever went wrong was if the (self employed) fitter miss-measured :rotfl: and the frame didn't fit.


Provided they didn't do it too often, they'd simply (and very quickly) make them another to the correct size, and the miss-measured frame, along with the glass units, went in the "grave yard" at the back of the warehouse, where other customers/ fitters could rummage around and get a bargain if they found something they could make use of.