Thank Goodness Brexit will not halt immigration

MisterMotivated

phillw wrote: »

You're complaining that they take money out of the UK economy

It wasn’t a complaint, just a statement.

without explaining why that is bad

I didn’t say it was bad, just that it results in people in this country having less money

and what right you have to stop it

I didn’t say I have a right to stop it.

why you don't want to stop british people taking their money out of the country.

Why should I want to stop it? I don’t care about it. Keeping money in an account in the Cayman Islands is not the same as spending it in the Cayman Islands though.

So it's bad when they spend their money on property in the UK, but you want them to spend their money here? What other discriminatory statements do you want to make?

First, you might want to look up the definition of “discriminatory”. Second, I didn’t say I want them to spend their money here, just that it would be more beneficial for Brits to spend their money here, rather than giving it to people who will more likely spend it elsewhere

phillw

MisterMotivated wrote: »

It wasn’t a complaint, just a statement.

So you're ok with it? You just mentioned it as a fact? Not something you're at all bothered about?

MisterMotivated wrote: »

I didn’t say it was bad, just that it results in people in this country having less money

Only because the landlord is not in this country. The global position of the land lord is irrelevant to the tenants for example.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

Why should I want to stop it? I don’t care about it.

Your posts don't give that impression at all.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

Keeping money in an account in the Cayman Islands is not the same as spending it in the Cayman Islands though.

Rich people often do the best they can to not spend it anywhere. They much prefer to invest it,

MisterMotivated wrote: »

First, you might want to look up the definition of “discriminatory”.

check.

adjective "making or showing an unfair or prejudicial distinction between different categories of people or things,"

MisterMotivated wrote: »

Second, I didn’t say I want them to spend their money here, just that it would be more beneficial for Brits to spend their money here, rather than giving it to people who will more likely spend it elsewhere

Again, you're making the mistake that someone who lives here will spend their amassed fortune here. What you should be trying to do is make people want to spend money here, whether they are british or not. Not convincing yourself that the real problem is the foreigners owning property in the first place.

If for example you want the supermarkets to sell more pints of milk then you need more people to come to the country, having all the property owned by british people doesn't make them spend more on milk.

MisterMotivated

phillw wrote: »

So you're ok with it? You just mentioned it as a fact? Not something you're at all bothered about?

YES!!! I couldn't give a flying word that would get blocked on this forum about them. I made a comment about how ultimately foreign investment extracts profits from the UK. Plain and simple. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have more important things to do than read the rest of your post.


Good day.

phillw

MisterMotivated wrote: »

I made a comment about how ultimately foreign investment extracts profits from the UK. Plain and simple.

If sending money out of the country is your thing then why aren't you commenting on the number of oranges people buy?

MisterMotivated

If selling milk to tourists is your thing, why don’t you tattoo a cow across your chest and become a brand ambassador for a national dairy chain?

I’ve never described anything as “my thing”, except “my thing”. But since you asked, it’s difficult to grow oranges in this country in significant quantities due to the climate, so it makes sense to import them. Unlike landlords, on the other hand, which grow in most climates.

phillw

MisterMotivated wrote: »

Unlike landlords, on the other hand, which grow in most climates.

Ok. I've duly noted your preference for locally grown land lords compared to the foreign ones.

MisterMotivated

phillw wrote: »

Only because the landlord is not in this country.

So, you're saying that one reason for people in this country having less money is, in your words, "because the landlord is not in this country"? I wonder if there's a word for that...

The global position of the land lord is irrelevant to the tenants for example.

And that fact is irrelevant to my original point.

Your posts don't give that impression at all.

My posts simply defend the initial point I made. You're the one who keeps raising the issue of English landlords moving money offshore.

Rich people often do the best they can to not spend it anywhere. They much prefer to invest it,

So, you agree that English people moving their money offshore is irrelevant? Also, why did you feel it necessary to only talk about rich English people? I think the real issue is that some people in the UK are wealthier than you, and that's not fair...

adjective "making or showing an unfair or prejudicial distinction between different categories of people or things,"

Next, you might want to explain what distinction has been made between foreign people and English people on this thread, and in what way any such distinction is unfair or prejudicial? I'll even help you to formulate an argument as to why I'm allegedly pro-English/anti-foreigner by letting you in on a secret; I'm not English.

Again, you're making the mistake that someone who lives here will spend their amassed fortune here.

Hmmm, amassed fortune... There you go again with the anti-wealth rhetoric. Except many landlords in this country are not uber-rich businessmen in smart suits with vast property portfolios, but individuals (or couples) trying to supplement their income in the face of ever-increasing living costs and persistent threats to pensions. Those people are indeed more likely to spend their money in this country, buying milk, cheese, all manner of dairy products.

What you should be trying to do is make people want to spend money here, whether they are british or not.

That would be nice if many more people spent money here, but it's not my job to make them; surely that's for the government and the tourism industry.

Not convincing yourself that the real problem is the foreigners owning property in the first place.

All I did was make an observation.

If for example you want the supermarkets to sell more pints of milk then you need more people to come to the country, having all the property owned by british people doesn't make them spend more on milk.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Because the UK is world-renowned for its high quality milk??? What on Earth makes you think I want supermarkets to sell more milk?

MisterMotivated

phillw wrote: »

Ok. I've duly noted your preference for locally grown land lords compared to the foreign ones.

Keep in mind, they must be organic landlords

phillw

MisterMotivated wrote: »

Keep in mind, they must be organic landlords

Grown by corbyn on his allotment no doubt

phillw

MisterMotivated wrote: »

So, you're saying that one reason for people in this country having less money is, in your words, "because the landlord is not in this country"? I wonder if there's a word for that...

There is, geography.

The foreign landlord doesn't qualify for the group people in this country, if he's not in the country & so his money isn't included in the total.

Your point was discussing the total amount of money for people in this country, not where the money was.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

My posts simply defend the initial point I made. You're the one who keeps raising the issue of English landlords moving money offshore.

Only because you keep implying that english landlords spend money in the UK while foreign landlords don't.

Empty housing is more of an issue as that does reduce spending in an area.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

So, you agree that English people moving their money offshore is irrelevant? Also, why did you feel it necessary to only talk about rich English people?

Landlords tend to be rich, at least relatively. Most poor people don't rent a property out or move money internationally.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

I think the real issue is that some people in the UK are wealthier than you, and that's not fair...

Money is it's own arbiter, it has no concept of being fair.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

Next, you might want to explain what distinction has been made between foreign people and English people on this thread, and in what way any such distinction is unfair or prejudicial?

You were singling them out as a problem.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

Hmmm, amassed fortune... There you go again with the anti-wealth rhetoric.

It's a description, I don't have a problem with it.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

Except many landlords in this country are not uber-rich businessmen in smart suits with vast property portfolios, but individuals (or couples) trying to supplement their income in the face of ever-increasing living costs and persistent threats to pensions. Those people are indeed more likely to spend their money in this country, buying milk, cheese, all manner of dairy products.

Maybe the foreign landlord is in the same position.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

I'll even help you to formulate an argument as to why I'm allegedly pro-English/anti-foreigner by letting you in on a secret; I'm not English.

You're saying only english people can be anti foreigner? Isn't that discriminatory?

MisterMotivated wrote: »

That would be nice if many more people spent money here, but it's not my job to make them; surely that's for the government and the tourism industry.

I don't think the government or tourism industry should make people come here, they should want to come here of their own volition.

MisterMotivated wrote: »

Because the UK is world-renowned for its high quality milk???

We export a lot of it. Why are you talking it down?

MisterMotivated wrote: »

What on Earth makes you think I want supermarkets to sell more milk

More money for the people in this country? That seems to be something you care about.