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Parking Eye Signs, Oxford Road, Reading
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Contract ???? WHAT CONTRACT ??1 -
Surely a slam-dunk win in court. How do they get away with it?You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0
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Surely a slam-dunk win in court. How do they get away with it?
These signs are identical to those at Pangbourne Working Mens Club (separate thread) about a mile away, but under West Berkshire Council and not Reading Council. West Berkshire have opened up an enforcement file under reference 18/00546/04ADV.
Perhaps both councils could take joint enforcement action?0 -
These signs are identical to those at Pangbourne Working Mens Club (separate thread) about a mile away, but under West Berkshire Council and not Reading Council. West Berkshire have opened up an enforcement file under reference 18/00546/04ADV.
Perhaps both councils could take joint enforcement action?
I took those pictures albiet late in the afternoon.
Whilst there were a fair number of them, every one was small and did not alert the motorist
They refer to the T&C's which are unreadable unless you carry a ladder in your car and a strong magnifier
If the signs in the club are the same, such signs will no doubt be in many car parks around the country.
There is a lot of blame that can be passed to the BPA who, so we are told, audit these care parks ....... believe that and you will see some flying pigs in the sky.
Sir Deep will no doubt have words to say1 -
RBC have refused to engage with me on the new fangled telephone thingy so I have written them a letter.
http://www.grumpieroldmen.co.uk/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34271&sid=5a5932353df12fd321f5a949ba1289baYou never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
RBC have refused to engage with me on the new fangled telephone thingy so I have written them a letter.
http://www.grumpieroldmen.co.uk/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34271&sid=5a5932353df12fd321f5a949ba1289ba
RBC ????? It is well known that their left hand has lost touch with their right hand. With their mis handling of funds, would never be surprised if they followed Northamptonshire County Council
Why not attend a planning meeting ????1 -
Hi everyone, thanks for your advice so far on this matter, I am defending my case in the County Court and have used a template by Coupon-mad from this forum to base my written defence. Could I get some feedback on it before I submit it online please? I have to get it done before the weekend..
(I've removed the names, and case number)
In the County Court
Claim Number:
Between
ParkingEye Ltd
v
B
DEFENCE
Background - the driver was an authorised patron of the onsite business
1. The Defendant is the registered keeper of the vehicle in question. The Claim relates to an alleged debt arising from the driver's alleged breach of contract, which is denied. It is further denied that there was any agreement to pay the Claimant a punitive £100 'parking charge notice' (PCN) for the lawful conduct described below.
2. The allegation appears to be that the 'vehicle was not authorised to use the car park' based on images by their ANPR camera at the entrance and exit to the site. This is merely an image of the vehicle in transit and is no evidence of 'No Authorisation' or not being a patron of the facility.
3. The Defendant has already proved that patronage, and it is the Claimant's own failure, caused by their deliberately obscure terms that catches out far too many victims at this location, that has given rise to a PCN that was not properly issued from the outset.
Unclear terms - unconscionable penalty relying upon a hidden keypad
4. According to the sparse signs in this car park, it transpires that to avoid a Parking Charge and despite there being no Pay & Display machines or similar, visitors were expected to know to input their Vehicle Registration Number (VRN) at the Hockey & Tennis Centre reception desk.
5. Upon receiving the claim, the Defendant researched this all too common issue and was advised to complain to the landowner. Unsurprisingly, this was conspicuous by its absence as an option offered by ParkingEye in their signs or paperwork, prior to commencing proceedings. The Manager was incensed that these complaints were becoming a daily occurrence, blighting the business and upsetting customers ever since the ill-advised contract began, yet the business was now stuck with it for the time being.
5.1. The Manager provided a letter proving the Defendant was a patron of the Business (Lee Valley Hockey & Tennis Centre).
5.2. The only route offered was a supposed 'appeal' to ParkingEye themselves, but the Defendant knew that no offence or mischief had occurred and honestly believed from initial research, that private parking charges and the appeals systems were unlikely to be fairly weighted in favour of consumers.
5.3. This fact was later confirmed in all readings of the Private Parking Code of Practice Bill, from February 2018 to date, where MPs universally condemned the entire industry as operating 'an outrageous scam' typically relying upon hidden, punitive terms that purposely rely on drivers not seeing an unexpected obligation. Both the British Parking Association ('BPA') Trade Body and indeed, ParkingEye themselves were specifically named and shamed more than once in Parliament and the Bill was introduced purely because the industry is out of control, self regulation has failed, and in many cases any 'appeal' is futile.
No legitimate interest - the penalty rule remains engaged
6. The Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient proprietary interest in the land, or that it has the necessary authorisation from the landowner to issue parking charge notices in these circumstances, and to pursue payment in the court in their own name. Even if they hold such authority, the Claimant is put to strict proof that this authorisation expressly allows litigation against patrons even when the business in fact supports the Defendant in wanting an unfair charge to be cancelled.
7. Even if the Claimant is able to produce such a landowner contract, it is averred that there can be no legitimate interest arguable by the Claimant in this case. When - all too often at this location - ParkingEye unfairly harvest the data of a registered keeper to charge a genuine patron, any commercial justification in the form of landowner support for such unfair ticketing is de facto absent.
7.1. Further, there was no overstay nor any mischief to deter, nor was there any misuse of a valuable parking space by the Defendant, whose car was parked in good faith, not in contravention nor causing an obstruction, and was certainly not 'unauthorised'. With no 'legitimate interest' excuse for charging this unconscionable sum given the above facts, this Claimant's claim is reduced to an unrecoverable penalty and must fail.
7.2. This case is fully distinguished in all respects from ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67. That Supreme Court decision sets a high bar for parking firms, not a blanket precedent, and the Beavis case essentially turned on a 'complex' and compelling legitimate interest and very clear notices, where the terms were held not to involve any lack of good faith or 'concealed pitfall or trap'. Completely unlike the instant case.
8. In addition, there can be no cause of action in a parking charge case without a 'relevant obligation' and/or 'relevant contract' (the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 refers). Expecting a driver to somehow realise they need to input their VRN at the venue reception, in what the consumer is confident is an unrestricted free car park for patrons with no visible machines of any description, is indisputably a 'concealed pitfall' and cannot be described as a 'relevant obligation'.
9. This Claimant uses ANPR camera systems to process data but fails to comply with the Information Commissioner's 'Data Protection Code of Practice for Surveillance Cameras and Personal Information' (the ICO Code). This is both a specific Data Protection and BPA Code of Practice breach. The Supreme Court Judges in Beavis held that a Code of Practice is effectively 'regulation' for this blatantly rogue industry, full compliance with which is both mandatory and binding upon any parking operator.
9.1. The ICO Code applies to all ANPR systems, and states that the private sector is required to follow it, in order to meet its legal obligations as a data processor. Members of the BPA are required to comply fully with the Data Protection Act (DPA) and all ICO rules and guidelines, as a pre-requisite of being able to use the DVLA KADOE system and in order to enforce parking charges on private land. At this location, the Claimant has failed on all counts and the data gathered about patrons of the site is unconscionable and excessive, given the lack of transparency about the risk of a charge for failing to do something that the driver never knew was a requirement.
Lack of good faith, fairness or transparency and misleading business practices
10. If a parking firm was truly acting in good faith and keeping the interests of consumers at the heart of their thinking, they would concentrate on ensuring firstly, that patrons could not miss the keypad(s) and secondly, could not miss the fact that, if they did receive an unfair PCN as a genuine customer, they had a right to ask the landowner/Managers to cancel it. Clearly the Claimants interest is purely in misleading and punishing customers and extracting as much money as possible in three figure penalties, given that this is the only way ParkingEye make any money.
11. The Claimant's negligent or deliberately unfair business practice initially caused the unfair PCN to arise, then the Claimant's silence regarding the simple option of landowner cancellation rights, directly caused these unwarranted proceedings. This Claimant cannot be heard to blame consumers for not trying a futile 'appeal' to them, whilst themselves hoping the Defendant does not discover that ParkingEye withheld the option of landowner cancellation all along.
11.1. By failing to adequately alert patrons to the keypad, and then withholding from the registered keeper any/all information about the 'user agreement' with the landowner which would have enable an immediate route of cancellation, are 'misleading omissions' of material facts. These are specific breaches of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 and transgress the tests of fairness and transparency of consumer contracts, as set out in the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (this relatively untested legislation was enacted after the final hearing in Beavis and not actively considered in that case). As such, this claim must fail.
Inflation of the parking charge and double recovery - an abuse of process
12. This claim inflates the total charges in a clear attempt at double recovery. The Defendant trusts that the presiding Judge will recognise this wholly unreasonable conduct as a gross abuse of process. It was held in the Supreme Court in Beavis (where £85 was claimed, and no more) that a private parking charge already includes a very significant and high percentage in profit and more than covers the costs of running an automated regime of template letters. Thus, there can be no 'costs' to pile on top of any parking charge claim.
13. In addition to the original penalty, the Claimants have artificially inflated the value of the Claim by adding purported legal costs of £50, which have not actually been incurred by the Claimant. ParkingEye Ltd have not expended any such sum in this case, given that they have a Legal Team with salaried in-house Solicitors and (shamefully) this firm whose main business is supposed to be parking 'management' as a service provision, files tens of thousands of similar 'cut & paste' robo-claims per annum. No genuine legal costs arise, per case, and their in-house Solicitors cannot possibly be believed to be paid in the millions per annum for their services.
14. The added 'legal' cost is in fact an artificially invented figure, which represents a cynical attempt to circumvent the Small Claims costs rules and achieve double recovery. According to Ladak v DRC Locums UKEAT/0488/13/LA, a Claimant can only recover the direct and provable costs of the time spent by legally qualified staff on actually preparing the claim and/or the cost of obtaining advice for that specific claim, in a legal capacity.
15. The defendant denies the claim in its entirety voiding any liability to the claimant for all amounts claimed due to the aforementioned reasons. The Court is invited to dismiss the Claim, and to allow such Defendant's costs as are permissible under Civil Procedure Rule 27.14.
I confirm that the facts in this defence are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.
B
3rd April 20191 -
Yes that's fine for this case. Very refreshing to see this researched & done.
Stick around and read the NEWBIES thread about DQ stage, then WS and evidence.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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