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baza52

RuthnJasper wrote: »

You can't cherry-pick news articles to support your own views and claim that this is a balanced opinion or demographic.

of course i can cherry pick articles, just as others have done in this thread.
At the end of the day i make my decisions based on what i see and what i hear as do the people that dont support TR.

The only difference is that TR supporters dont say things like "anyone that does not support Tommy is a (insert whatever you want) and make a generalised assumption about them.

Surely having a biased opinion on anyone that supports Tommy Robinson ( former EDL founder, real name Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon ) is no different to having a biased opinion of supporters of a certain religion.

Comms69

baza52 wrote: »

again how ironic.
TR gets abuse when he talks about someone that has abused others and you think he is wrong to do it.
You then think that your words are justified in the same scenario. Pot-Kettle

Hold up, where did I say anything of the sort?


I may not agree with him, and he may be factually incorrect - but as I've said several times - I think it is correct for him to speak his mind.

RuthnJasper

baza52 wrote: »

of course i can cherry pick articles, just as others have done in this thread.
At the end of the day i make my decisions based on what i see and what i hear as do the people that dont support TR.

The only difference is that TR supporters dont say things like "anyone that does not support Tommy is a (insert whatever you want) and make a generalised assumption about them.

Surely having a biased opinion on anyone that supports Tommy Robinson ( former EDL founder, real name Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon ) is no different to having a biased opinion of supporters of a certain religion.

That doesn't make it right. Others rant, swear and bully. I choose not to. But that's just me and my opinion. I am not an arbiter of what's right and wrong.

baza52

RuthnJasper wrote: »

That doesn't make it right. Others rant, swear and bully. I choose not to. But that's just me and my opinion. I am not an arbiter of what's right and wrong.

doesn't make what right?

hollydays

baza52 wrote: »

https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-gang-convictions-84-asian-say-researchers-11164589

any thoughts on this article? do you not agree the statistics are very worrying.

This was prepared by the quilliam foundation, who TR worked with , yet who's director of policy said of him

"“He’s a drifter, who is chaotic and untrustworthy,” said David Toube, Quilliam’s director of policy. “He’s a guy who’s seen the main chance and gone for it.”

baza52

so the director said that about him. We are all entitled to an opinion of someone whether its good or bad.

RichardD1970

baza52 wrote: »

The only difference is that TR supporters dont say things like "anyone that does not support Tommy is a (insert whatever you want) and make a generalised assumption about them.

Oh yes they do.

As this is a current topic it is all over our local facebook group with his supporters slagging off the BBC, establishment and anyone else who they think has "wronged" their precious Tommy.

I have been called all sorts of names from terrorist sympathiser to pedo lover simply for posting a few verifiable facts and even direct quotes from the man himself, which paint him in a not so brilliant light.

baza52

can i ask what facts you posted?

hollydays

baza52 wrote: »

so the director said that about him. We are all entitled to an opinion of someone whether its good or bad.

Sidestepping my point, not too cleverly..
Which statistics are you suggesting are worrying ?

baza52

hollydays wrote: »

Sidestepping my point, not too cleverly..
Which statistics are you suggesting are worrying ?

I think you know full well which statistics i am refering to.
Perhaps you could provide a more accurate statistic as you seem to know more than me