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Newcastle BS may be a little old-fashioned but they are certainly not 'amateurs'. They've been around a long time and often have marketing-leading products. And your capital wouldn't have been at risk at all. It's naïve (amateur even) to think it would be.accorian said:greatcrested said:cosh25 said:For anyone who is interested. Newcastle Building Society have a Triple Access Saver which pays 1.05% (it guarantees to pay the BOE base rate plus 0.80% until Nov 2021). They have a ‘basic’ mobile app which lets you check balances on the go. May be worth a look as its less restrictive than the Cov BS one.
Anyone know when/how you get a User ID? I've opened an account and want to send a test transfer of £10, but pointless till I have online access to check receipt.Immediate provision of a User ID, should such even be deemed necessary, is the simplest of tasks. If the Newcastle Building Society's IT is so inept that it can't actually accomplish that, not much hope of it managing online banking safely, securely and speedily is there?
I'd thought about investing with it but having read your post, have decided against it: for the miserable fractions of percentage points on offer these days, I'm not going to risk my capital with any amateurs, Newcastle BS included.
( And, btw, you don't 'invest' with them, you save. )
Re the login system every organisation is different, building societies especially so.
So if you might want to save with Newcastle in a future time-limited offer I'd suggest you open a basic account with them now and get your log-in set-up well in advance.
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So I rang Newcastle's freephone number and eventually got answered.* user ID is in the post- can't log on till it arrives* my £25 test transfer will be returned: anything less than the initial £1K will be rejected* if I transfer £1K now (11.30 AM), then ring after about 3 PM they will confirm safe receipt (or I guess not!)* was given my account number to use in place of the temporary application reference0
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i really, really, do wish these people would not insist on this minimum £1000 first deposit business!! surely they must appreciate that not a few people would be unhappy to fire off such a large sum into the ether without some reassurance they have keyed in all the relevant numbers correctly? it was much the same story with a west bromwich easy access account which i managed to open last week just before it was pulled the next day and had a similar minimum £1k requirement, but i sent them a £10 test transfer anyway ---- and promptly got an email back refusing to accept it, which did at least prove they did receive it ok, (though curiously the £10 took a while longer to be returned!!)6
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At least NS&I allowed me to deposit my initial minimum £500 to their Income Bond by debit card.d63 said:i really, really, do wish these people would not insist on this minimum £1000 first deposit business!! surely they must appreciate that not a few people would be unhappy to fire off such a large sum into the ether without some reassurance they have keyed in all the relevant numbers correctly? it was much the same story with a west bromwich easy access account which i managed to open last week just before it was pulled the next day and had a similar minimum £1k requirement, but i sent them a £10 test transfer anyway ---- and promptly got an email back refusing to accept it, which did at least prove they did receive it ok, (though curiously the £10 took a while longer to be returned!!)0 -
RG2015 said:At least NS&I allowed me to deposit my initial minimum £500 to their Income Bond by debit card.Careful, RG2015. You're running the risk of being told by the massed ranks on this thread of fanbois (and possible employees) of the Newcastle Building Society that the society's outstanding professionalism and amazing technological expertise is reflected in everything it does, and that anything less than uncritical avowal of its saintly status is very, very bad.
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You would think these financial institutions would realise that people these days are trying to be extra careful about not being scammed and many people are still very nervous about internet banking. It,s surely beyond the bounds of invention for the software guys to set up a £10 test deposit option for prospective customers to double check the system is robust first. Doing this might I fact increase confidence In internet banking. Then any follow up deposit could be made within say 48 hours. Having had one heart stopping moment in the past in opening a new online savings account I would welcome such a move.3
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Primrose said:. . . It,s surely [not] beyond the bounds of invention for the software guys to set up a £10 test deposit option for prospective customers to double check the system is robust first.The problem with test deposits, in my experience, is that the sending bank blocks the subsequent transfer on the grounds that it could be a fraudster trying to empty your account.But yes, banks could do better; particularly if you are funding a deposit from a number of different accounts. It seems to me that they could allow, say 14 days, to accumulate the funds but then they might have to return them all to several different banks.
Warning: In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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Consumerist said:Primrose said:. . . It,s surely [not] beyond the bounds of invention for the software guys to set up a £10 test deposit option for prospective customers to double check the system is robust first.The problem with test deposits, in my experience, is that the sending bank blocks the subsequent transfer on the grounds that it could be a fraudster trying to empty your account.But yes, banks could do better; particularly if you are funding a deposit from a number of different accounts. It seems to me that they could allow, say 14 days, to accumulate the funds but then they might have to return them all to several different banks.I've been aware of this concern but have never found that multiple payments have been blocked.Many savings institutions already operate a funding window. Overwhelmingly, the "challenger" types.Many, when asked, are only too willing to accept an initial £10 and then confirm its receipt, without this affecting further deposits that day, or, throughout the funding window.IME. ...
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So I rang again and my £1K arrived safely. At least Newcastle accept Faster Payments where some BSs funds go via a clearing bank and take 24 hours.I also asked for my feedback re the inability to send a test amount (eg £10) to be highlighted up to management, and the CS Adviser agreed it was sensible and said she'd forward the comment.But two 25 minute phonecalls to confirm is time wasted - though thankfully a 0800 number at least!1
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I can understand the worries about being scammed but I would warn against thinking that depositing a small amount followed by a large amount is any protection. Spammers do that as well. It's called being sucked in.
If you were to deposit a small amount with a spammer they would be very quick to tell you all was well and reassure you to pay more. Spammers will even let you appear to withdraw funds by sending a small amount back to your bank if they thought they could catch a big fish.
When I am setting up a new payee (For savings I am the new payee) I put the numbers in forwards say 45667125 then remember them backwards 52176654 and check it reads correct that way round; if you see what I mean. This usually eliminates any tendency to get a digit wrong.
As for avoiding spammers. There is much guidance out there. Never respond to anyone contacting you (cold calls or unsolicited mail). Never click on a link (even from someone you trust) always double or triple check you can reach that page via another trusted source. I find the MSE "are your savings safe article" and the what bank is owned by who tool to be quite useful in this respect,
But as I said IMO paying a small amount followed by a larger one because you had been reassured by the source you paid the small amount to is not a way to be safe.1
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