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  • Eco_Miser said:
    BooJewels said:
    ColdIron said:
    That's right, you can't double dip. £18,570 with the right combination of earnings and interest is the figure you are looking for
    Or put it another way - as currently earning 14,000 interest. That means I could only earn up to £4,570 pa without paying any tax at all.
    Yep, that's the number I gave you 9 days ago in this post when you specifically asked how much could you earn before paying tax.
    Fair enough, absolutely you did. I'm sorry. Putting the max 20k in an ISA would protect about 1k of the 14k interest from tax assuming 5% interest. I already have premium bonds.
    Yes, but that's 1k per year 'forever', and you can protect another 1k from April 6th next year, and again the year after, etc. so in less than 14 years it will all be protected.

    Plus put one in your name, one in the wife's, and one in your eldest sons and that's £60,000 covered in an instant. Better still, if you drop down dead you don't have to worry about your family going short while they sort the money out.
  • allegro120
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    Are Gatehouse a Mon-Fri 9-5 bank like Al Rayan or can you move funds out 24/7 365 and are they pretty quick?
    No, not like Al Rayan. I've made weekend deposits - all arrived on the same day as long as they were sent before 1pm.  Once I've deposited on Friday evening and it arrived on Saturday.  
  • Bridlington1
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    edited 30 November 2023 at 1:18AM
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    Paragon Double Access 5.16% from 1/12/23.

    EDIT: Showing as Issue 4 rising to 5.16% on Moneyfacts despite Issue 4 already being 5.16% and NLA so it appears there's been a typo somewhere.
  • Bridlington1
    Bridlington1 Posts: 3,963 Forumite
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    edited 30 November 2023 at 11:07AM
    @soulsaver
    Paragon Double Access 5.16% from 1/12/23.

    EDIT: Showing as Issue 4 rising to 5.16% on Moneyfacts despite Issue 4 already being 5.16% and NLA so it appears there's been a typo somewhere.
    I've sent moneyfacts a message to query this and have just had a response from them:

    So it appears Paragon are going to take the unusual step of withdrawing Issue 5 in order to relaunch the previous Issue 4 at 5.16%.
  • Eco_Miser said:
    BooJewels said:
    ColdIron said:
    That's right, you can't double dip. £18,570 with the right combination of earnings and interest is the figure you are looking for
    Or put it another way - as currently earning 14,000 interest. That means I could only earn up to £4,570 pa without paying any tax at all.
    Yep, that's the number I gave you 9 days ago in this post when you specifically asked how much could you earn before paying tax.
    Fair enough, absolutely you did. I'm sorry. Putting the max 20k in an ISA would protect about 1k of the 14k interest from tax assuming 5% interest. I already have premium bonds.
    Yes, but that's 1k per year 'forever', and you can protect another 1k from April 6th next year, and again the year after, etc. so in less than 14 years it will all be protected. And each time you protect 1k, you can earn another 1k without paying tax.

    While I've been following your terminology about protecting 1k, you actually protect whatever interest that £20k earns, which may be more.


    Yes to the first part. But for the second part interest rates would have to rise further and they have probably peaked now.

  • gwapenut
    gwapenut Posts: 1,436 Forumite
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    Are Gatehouse a Mon-Fri 9-5 bank like Al Rayan or can you move funds out 24/7 365 and are they pretty quick?
    No, not like Al Rayan. I've made weekend deposits - all arrived on the same day as long as they were sent before 1pm.  Once I've deposited on Friday evening and it arrived on Saturday.  
    It doesn't earn interest over the weekend though, even if it shows as received.
  • Are Gatehouse a Mon-Fri 9-5 bank like Al Rayan or can you move funds out 24/7 365 and are they pretty quick?
    No, not like Al Rayan. I've made weekend deposits - all arrived on the same day as long as they were sent before 1pm.  Once I've deposited on Friday evening and it arrived on Saturday.  
    Thanks, but it was funds out I was interested in.
  • allegro120
    allegro120 Posts: 2,016 Forumite
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    gwapenut said:
    Are Gatehouse a Mon-Fri 9-5 bank like Al Rayan or can you move funds out 24/7 365 and are they pretty quick?
    No, not like Al Rayan. I've made weekend deposits - all arrived on the same day as long as they were sent before 1pm.  Once I've deposited on Friday evening and it arrived on Saturday.  
    It doesn't earn interest over the weekend though, even if it shows as received.
    Oh, I didn't know this. I thought the funds earn interest from the date they are credited.  Is it written in t&c?
  • allegro120
    allegro120 Posts: 2,016 Forumite
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    Are Gatehouse a Mon-Fri 9-5 bank like Al Rayan or can you move funds out 24/7 365 and are they pretty quick?
    No, not like Al Rayan. I've made weekend deposits - all arrived on the same day as long as they were sent before 1pm.  Once I've deposited on Friday evening and it arrived on Saturday.  
    Thanks, but it was funds out I was interested in.
    Sorry, I misread your post :(
  • Eco_Miser said:
    BooJewels said:
    ColdIron said:
    That's right, you can't double dip. £18,570 with the right combination of earnings and interest is the figure you are looking for
    Or put it another way - as currently earning 14,000 interest. That means I could only earn up to £4,570 pa without paying any tax at all.
    Yep, that's the number I gave you 9 days ago in this post when you specifically asked how much could you earn before paying tax.
    Fair enough, absolutely you did. I'm sorry. Putting the max 20k in an ISA would protect about 1k of the 14k interest from tax assuming 5% interest. I already have premium bonds.
    Yes, but that's 1k per year 'forever', and you can protect another 1k from April 6th next year, and again the year after, etc. so in less than 14 years it will all be protected. And each time you protect 1k, you can earn another 1k without paying tax.

    While I've been following your terminology about protecting 1k, you actually protect whatever interest that £20k earns, which may be more.


    Yes to the first part. But for the second part interest rates would have to rise further and they have probably peaked now.

    But remember your interest will be compounded so if you put £20k in a 5% ISA you will earn £1k in year 1, £1.05k in year 2 etc.  All protected from tax.
    Reed
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