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  • SAC2334
    SAC2334 Posts: 871 Forumite
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    edited 2 September 2023 at 11:21AM
    SAC2334 said:
    grumbler said:
    liamcov said:
    SirHugo said:
    SirHugo said:
    castle96 said:
    Just to confirm - no£3 fee ... TRUE?if I dont bother with cashback, etc. Just want to bung £4k in there
    just chatted with Santander...
    14:00, Aug 17 - Sarah: The fee is applied after the conditions of the account are met for the first time.
    14:01, Aug 17 - You: so if I never use the current account, there is no fee? also, is there a hard credit check done on an application for the current account ??
    14:01, Aug 17 - Sarah: That's correct There is, yes
    i'm not sure that I can be bothered to apply for a current account that i'm never going to use, just to access a savings account that lasts for a year for £280 in interest - i'll likely wait until there is a switch offer and then use one of my other unused current accounts for that.
    I don't think I'm going to bother with this one either, too many hoops.
     And when you think about it, we're not  missing out on £280. Just on the 2% difference between Tandem at 5% and Santander at 7% so that's what, £80. Less if rates continue to rise.

    No hoops - less than 10 mins to open the account, opening the Edge saver was immediate, put the 4k in and that's that.

    Probably won't use the account but good to have an extra fee free card for abroad. At the end of the day it's a nice little burner account for when the next switch offer comes around that I'm eligible for. I just switched my Santander Everyday account last month.
    What about the £3 fee though, and this from MSE? 

    "To get it, you need a Santander Edge current account – a bills cashback account with a £3 monthly fee. And to keep the current account you must deposit at least £500 a month and have two or more active direct debits."


    If you have a look through the last several pages of this thread you'll see that you don't have to fulfil the criteria you mentioned - it's only needed to activate the cashback element of the account. If you don't set up two direct debits - or pay in the £500 a month - then the £3 fee never kicks in.

    The comments about this started around the morning of the 15th August.


    Does this work as I also have a San Lite? Can you have both current accounts at the same time?
    I have both - joint Edge and sole Lite.

    Hi

    Anyone have both as sole accounts? I was thinking of applying for the Edge to get the saver at 7%.

    Cheers
    I have a Santander Everyday current account , no charges , no cash back .I also have the Edge saver with £4k in it, funded from the Everyday Account  and its showing 6.78 % interest when I check. 

    This could be a Santander glitch but I hope they honour it, if not I will switch back  to the Edge current account and try and get enough cashback to justify the bank charges.
    So you had an Edge account and then downgraded?

    Cheers
    Yes, under advice from Santander because I was nt earning enough on casback and direct debit payments from the Edge Current  to cover the bank charges . I also moved the £4 k from the Edge Saver ( 4 % at at the time ) leaving a small amount in it 
  • jak22
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    edited 2 September 2023 at 12:27PM
    The new autofill on the Tandem app isnt, as missed in the upvoted replies, the code received by SMS which has been a feature for ages and is helpful on many devices, but the phone number you enter into the app to get that code sent to unlock.

    This phone number is either the number in the SIM which if still correct removes the one thing the user has to know to gain access to the account, or if the number's been ported is likely no longer correct, an annoyance.  Either way its not a benefit.

    Some seem happy with the operation of the app relying on only verified accounts being linked - or are happy to set up a SIM lock just because of the way this one banking app works.
  • friolento
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    edited 2 September 2023 at 12:54PM
    jak22 said:
     

    Some seem happy with the operation of the app relying on only verified accounts being linked - or are happy to set up a SIM lock just because of the way this one banking app works.
    A SIM lock is a very sensible precaution against SIM swaps for anyone who has banking any apps, or other sensitive apps and data, on their phone, and for anyone who doesn't want to lose access to their mobile. It's nothing specifically required for Tandem, it's just good practice. As is not displaying text messages on the locked screen. If your mobile phone provider supports it, you can further protect yourself by putting a password on your mobile account, so fraudsters couldn't just ring up pretending to be you and asking for a SIM swap.


    jak22 said:
    The new autofill on the Tandem app isnt, as missed in the upvoted replies, the code received by SMS which has been a feature for ages and is helpful on many devices, but the phone number you enter into the app to get that code sent to unlock. 

    This feature has been on my Tandem app from day one, and I have used Tandem for ages now. I can't see an issue with it - quite the contrary, as it saves me typing my phone number.

    As an aside, if you type a phone number that isn't registered on your account, they say they have sent a 6-digit code to that number but in actual fact, it never arrives. Not that I have an issue with that, I am just mentioning it, and it is reassuring that the code doesn't get sent to just anyone.

  • masonic
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    edited 2 September 2023 at 1:15PM
    jak22 said:
    The new autofill on the Tandem app isnt, as missed in the upvoted replies, the code received by SMS which has been a feature for ages and is helpful on many devices, but the phone number you enter into the app to get that code sent to unlock.

    This phone number is either the number in the SIM which if still correct removes the one thing the user has to know to gain access to the account, or if the number's been ported is likely no longer correct, an annoyance.  Either way its not a benefit.

    Some seem happy with the operation of the app relying on only verified accounts being linked - or are happy to set up a SIM lock just because of the way this one banking app works.
    That would be a feature of the password manager or OS running on your device, not the Tandem app. You should be able to configure it not to remember your username (phone number) for the Tandem app if you wish. However, it is very easy to find out the phone number of a mobile phone you have in your possession, unlocked, on both Android and iOS devices. You cannot keep your phone number secret from others who have use of your phone. Secure lockscreen settings and a SIM PIN are essential if you register your phone number with any financial institution, as you need to ensure your phone cannot be used by others if it is ever out of your possession.
    There is also a feature where the Tandem app will automatically read and submit the code sent via SMS if it is sent to the same device as the app. This is a feature of the Tandem app, and that is the one some of us thought you meant from the description you gave.
    I set a SIM PIN long before Tandem existed. There are many more services put at risk if you don't do this than your Tandem app.
  • KevinG
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    jak22 said:
    The new autofill on the Tandem app isnt, as missed in the upvoted replies, the code received by SMS which has been a feature for ages and is helpful on many devices, but the phone number you enter into the app to get that code sent to unlock.
    Not for me it isn't, it's never done that, it's the 6-digit code it sends by text.
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  • quirkydeptless
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    edited 3 September 2023 at 10:28AM
    For the uninitiated, a pin lock on their sim is in addition to a pin lock screen for their mobile. Search how to do it for your particular mobile. Security of your mobile is more paramount than ever in this day and age and I am amazed at how complacent lots of mobile users are. Last week I found a mobile on a bench while out for a walk and it didn`t even have a screen lock set up.

    I have shifted from mostly doing finances from my Laptop to being almost entirely dependent on my mobile phone in just the past few years (2FA and mobile finance apps) and hadn't until Yesterday ever set a SIM PIN lock on it (mainly 'cos I wasn't aware of the extra security feature), so thanks for the useful tip, although I hope it never comes to a point where it is needed.

    Drifting off topic, maybe needs to be in another thread.
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  • For the uninitiated, a pin lock on their sim is in addition to a pin lock screen for their mobile. Search how to do it for your particular mobile. Security of your mobile is more paramount than ever in this day and age and I am amazed at how complacent lots of mobile users are. Last week I found a mobile on a bench while out for a walk and it didn`t even have a screen lock set up.

    I have shifted from mostly doing finances from my Laptop to being almost entirely dependent on my mobile phone in just the past few years (2FA and mobile finance apps) and hadn't until Yesterday ever set a SIM PIN lock on it (mainly 'cos I wasn't aware of the extra security feature), so thanks for the useful tip, although I hope it never comes to a point where it is needed.

    Drifting off topic, maybe needs to be in another thread.
    If your mobile has a memory card, you can also password that as well.
  • ranciduk
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    For the uninitiated, a pin lock on their sim is in addition to a pin lock screen for their mobile. Search how to do it for your particular mobile. Security of your mobile is more paramount than ever in this day and age and I am amazed at how complacent lots of mobile users are. Last week I found a mobile on a bench while out for a walk and it didn`t even have a screen lock set up.

    I have shifted from mostly doing finances from my Laptop to being almost entirely dependent on my mobile phone in just the past few years (2FA and mobile finance apps) and hadn't until Yesterday ever set a SIM PIN lock on it (mainly 'cos I wasn't aware of the extra security feature), so thanks for the useful tip, although I hope it never comes to a point where it is needed.

    Drifting off topic, maybe needs to be in another thread.
    Am I right in saying that to set up a sim pin code for the first time, you need to enter the ‘default’ pin first?

    i can’t find the ‘default’ pin for my phone anywhere!!
  • cadguy77
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    edited 3 September 2023 at 7:40PM
    ranciduk said:
    For the uninitiated, a pin lock on their sim is in addition to a pin lock screen for their mobile. Search how to do it for your particular mobile. Security of your mobile is more paramount than ever in this day and age and I am amazed at how complacent lots of mobile users are. Last week I found a mobile on a bench while out for a walk and it didn`t even have a screen lock set up.

    I have shifted from mostly doing finances from my Laptop to being almost entirely dependent on my mobile phone in just the past few years (2FA and mobile finance apps) and hadn't until Yesterday ever set a SIM PIN lock on it (mainly 'cos I wasn't aware of the extra security feature), so thanks for the useful tip, although I hope it never comes to a point where it is needed.

    Drifting off topic, maybe needs to be in another thread.
    Am I right in saying that to set up a sim pin code for the first time, you need to enter the ‘default’ pin first?

    i can’t find the ‘default’ pin for my phone anywhere!!
    Google it for your network provider 

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