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  • allegro120
    allegro120 Posts: 1,937 Forumite
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    AmityNeon said:
    Mr._H_2 said:
    Zaul22 said:
    Chip really has to keep offering the top rate as that's literally the only thing good about it. The app is terrible [...]

    In what way is it terrible? Works flawlessly for me. That plus instant deposits and withdrawals makes it better (for me) that many other "easy" or "instant" access savings accounts.

    Indeed, what's not good about 24/7 instant deposits/withdrawals with immediate email notifications? Using standard Faster Payments, i.e. not debit card or Open Banking, deposits function like any other savings account (but usually faster).

    Gatehouse (and others) may have beaten Chip's rate, but it can be a hassle having to plan around 3-hour delays, working days, cut-off times, posted dates vs value dates, branch-only or post-only, double access, large minimum operating balances and withdrawal/deposit restrictions etc. That being said, I've still emptied Chip as a matter of a principle, because I'd rather they not rest on their laurels.

    I'll wait until Monday and if it stays the same I'll transfer most of funds from Chip to GH, but leave some in Chip for 24/7 instant access needs.  However, I won't be surprised if one of the usual competitors will beat GH on Monday.  Last time I've opened GH account in a couple of hours it was beaten by Al Rayan, so I didn't fund it any further than the initial test £1 deposit.
  • Futuristic
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    edited 10 June 2023 at 7:14PM
    Freedommm said:
    I have started putting large proportion of my liquid funds in Wise instead of moving around for every 0.1-2% everyone is scheming off, exception being my emergency fund in a normal bank. 

    It's been mentioned here before probably so people need to understand the risks. Rate is now 4.11% and is technically easy access. (https://wise.com/gb/interest/)
    That page isn't working for me but on their pricing page, the rate is quoted at 3.89%. Interestingly, USD gets 4.55%. But that presents another risk. 
    Rates are updated every ~30 day last update was 8th June so just the public site hasn't updated. Shows updated in the account.

    Variable annual interest rate 4.11% Rate as of 8 Jun 2023, after fees

    USD is higher at 4.78% as well. 
  • MiserlyMartin
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    edited 10 June 2023 at 9:49PM
    Freedommm said:
    I have started putting large proportion of my liquid funds in Wise instead of moving around for every 0.1-2% everyone is scheming off, exception being my emergency fund in a normal bank. 

    It's been mentioned here before probably so people need to understand the risks. Rate is now 4.11% and is technically easy access. (https://wise.com/gb/interest/)
    That page isn't working for me but on their pricing page, the rate is quoted at 3.89%. Interestingly, USD gets 4.55%. But that presents another risk. 

    It's 4.19% minus the 0.19% fee = 3.89% according to the wise site. Yes you'll pay a fee to convert to US$ and back again, but if you hold $ anyway for some other reason because you need to then that fee is negated. I like the idea of investing in short dated bond funds, is there any way of getting something similar with blackrock directly cutting out Wise the middle man?
  • MiserlyMartin
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    Has anyone tried arguing with HRMC about Gatehouse and all the other sharia banks that don't pay interest, that because it is not actually interest -  you don't pay tax on it?
  • TheBanker
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    Has anyone tried arguing with HRMC about Gatehouse and all the other sharia banks that don't pay interest, that because it is not actually interest -  you don't pay tax on it?
    It's still income. If you try the 'it's not interest' argument then they may agree and therefore not allow it to form part of your PSA! 
  • uptdale
    uptdale Posts: 180 Forumite
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    Has anyone tried arguing with HRMC about Gatehouse and all the other sharia banks that don't pay interest, that because it is not actually interest -  you don't pay tax on it?
    It's not interest, but the tax law treats it as if it is interest.  There's a summary in HMRC's Tax Manual here: https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/savings-and-investment-manual/saim2250


  • ForumUser7
    ForumUser7 Posts: 2,478 Forumite
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    edited 11 June 2023 at 1:21AM
    If you want me to definitely see your reply, please tag me @forumuser7 Thank you.

    N.B. (Amended from Forum Rules): You must investigate, and check several times, before you make any decisions or take any action based on any information you glean from any of my content, as nothing I post is advice, rather it is personal opinion and is solely for discussion purposes. I research before my posts, and I never intend to share anything that is misleading, misinforming, or out of date, but don't rely on everything you read. Some of the information changes quickly, is my own opinion or may be incorrect. Verify anything you read before acting on it to protect yourself because you are responsible for any action you consequently make... DYOR, YMMV etc.
  • housebuyer143
    housebuyer143 Posts: 4,268 Forumite
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    I'm getting a product closed next to it on the website?
  • I'm getting a product closed next to it on the website?
    That's what (NLA) means - No Longer Available, for info.
  • iNeed2P
    iNeed2P Posts: 25 Forumite
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    edited 11 June 2023 at 9:29AM
    Has anyone tried arguing with HRMC about Gatehouse and all the other sharia banks that don't pay interest, that because it is not actually interest -  you don't pay tax on it?
    😂😂 My, oh my!, gave me a chuckle this morning, stark raving bonkers!
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