Smart Meters mandatory on new fixed term deals

Waikikigirl

Having read other people’s comments I am not the only one who doesn’t want a smart meter for a number of reasons but why am I being penalised by the big companies who will not offer me a cheap tariff because I decline a smart meter. My present company is harassing me to have one installed. Why cant I have a better tariff without a smart meter? Is there any company out there who does offer a decent deal with no pressure for smart meter?

Takmon

Waikikigirl wrote: »

Having read other people’s comments I am not the only one who doesn’t want a smart meter for a number of reasons but why am I being penalised by the big companies who will not offer me a cheap tariff because I decline a smart meter. My present company is harassing me to have one installed. Why cant I have a better tariff without a smart meter? Is there any company out there who does offer a decent deal with no pressure for smart meter?

That's because there is no logical reason to not have a smart meter. So if people are silly enough to protest against having one they are probably silly enough to pay more to not have one so the energy companies want to take advantage of this.

Gerry1

Waikikigirl wrote: »

Why cant I have a better tariff without a smart meter? Is there any company out there who does offer a decent deal with no pressure for smart meter?

Avro, Yorkshire Energy, and probably many more. Try Symbio - probably the cheapest electricity and they don't even support smart meters !

Bigphil1474

We've just switched form EDF who have been pushing us to have a smart meter for a few months since our last switch in June - an engineer came and said our house wasn't suitable, and EDF wanted to switch us on to their SVR. Going to Bulb.

Swipe

Takmon wrote: »

That's because there is no logical reason to not have a smart meter. So if people are silly enough to protest against having one they are probably silly enough to pay more to not have one so the energy companies want to take advantage of this.

Let's see who is silly when in the not so distant future you'll paying over 50p per unit for your electricity at peak times

matelodave

There are plenty of companies who don't fit or support smart meters as well as those who do.

So if you dont want a smart meter , choose one of them. No one is forcing to sign up for a tariff that requires you to have a smart meter.

I really cannot see what all the whinging and whining is about. It's entirely your choice, change companies or pay more if you don't want one.

[Deleted User]

Swipe wrote: »

Let's see who is silly when in the not so distant future you'll paying over 50p per unit for your electricity at peak times

Where is the evidence of 50 p a kwh peak times .Are you having a guess on that one ?

Gerry1

Houbara wrote: »

Where is the evidence of 50 p a kwh peak times .Are you having a guess on that one ?

Well, Bulb are already charging up to 41.94p/kWh so it's clearly only a matter of time.

matelodave

Gerry1 wrote: »

Well, Bulb are already charging up to 41.94p/kWh so it's clearly only a matter of time.

Correction - Bulb are offering a variable TOU tariff which you can take up IF YOU CHOOSE, its not compulsory. It would be interesting to see how many people have taken "advantage" of this tariff and what they think of it. Octopus, have a similar tariff on offer, called Agile which allows you to optimise your consumption outside peak times. They suggest that it might work for those who charge electric cars overnight. Have a shufti here https://octopus.energy/blog/agile-pricing-explained/

All you are doing is scaremongering by keep bringing it up without actually explaining the context.

Other companies may decide to bring some TOU tariffs to test the market, some of which actually may suit some people who are capable of shifting their consumption profile to off-peak or lower rate periods, but I guess it will be up to the consumer to decide on whether to take it up.

I believe BG had one for a period where you got free energy for one day over the weekend. I dont know how popular it was, whether anyone gained any benefit out of it and I'm not sure if its still available

Gerry1

matelodave wrote: »

Correction

Nope. Nothing was wrong. Nothing needed to be corrected.

matelodave wrote: »

Bulb are offering a variable TOU tariff which you can take up IF YOU CHOOSE, its not compulsory.

Where did I say it was compulsory ? :huh:

matelodave wrote: »

All you are doing is scaremongering by keep bringing it up without actually explaining the context.

Wrong. Factual evidence isn't scaremongering. I'd assumed that any doubting Thomases would have been clever enough to find the source if they were really that bothered, but here's the evidence: Bulb's smart tariff already charges 41.94p/kWh in South East England at peak times. Therefore, it's entirely reasonable to expect that inflation will bring it up to 50p/kWh in the not too distant future.