Smart Meters mandatory on new fixed term deals

Uxb1

Takmon wrote: »

The only reason people are objecting now is because they have been told they have a choice and have an illogical resistance to change.

I would not bother wasting your time on the moaners
We got the same cr*p when bank cashpoint cards came in the late 1970's
Wails and anguish about how will we cope with pin numbers plus the usual drivel about how we were all being "forced" to use them and how on earth would we manage no longer having to write cheques to cash and present them at the tellers' window in the bank to get our cash.
In 10 years time no one will care.....

[Deleted User]

Takmon wrote: »

By the way the "person who doesn't understand smart meters" is just a generic person and wasn't aimed at you specifically.



But it really is a once size fits all solution because by having one it wouldn't stop you from doing all the things you currently do with the existing meter but has the benefit of additional features as well.
At the end of the day the meter belongs to the energy company so i don't see why people were given the right to refuse in the first place. They really should have instead allowed the energy companies to make them mandatory but they had to fit them at a time convenient for the person who lives there by offering an evening or weekend appointment if required.
If they did that the it would solve the only problem with a meter change and that is inconveniencing the occupier.

The odd thing is that when they were first introduced, the Labour party were in power, and Ed Miliband was the Energy Minister at the time, who made the fitting of smart meter s mandatory as virtually every other country in Europe and the World had done where they were introduced.
Amazing that a so called right wing Tory government decided to give a mostly uncaring public the choice of what kind of meter, which does nt belong to them, is fitted in their properties when they have never had that right since the birth of metered energy.
As a bit of a sop to the public they also added the con that the meters would save them energy which was obviously a lie..They may "educate " the public to what exactly is a kwh but so could a public awareness campaign on how much money each appliance cost to run
Smart meters benefit the suppliers and enable them to run their businesses much better and more efficiently and so offer cheaper prices.That is how all businesses work

Gaikokujin

Uxb1 wrote: »

I would not bother wasting your time on the moaners
We got the same cr*p when bank cashpoint cards came in the late 1970's
Wails and anguish about how will we cope with pin numbers plus the usual drivel about how we were all being "forced" to use them and how on earth would we manage no longer having to write cheques to cash and present them at the tellers' window in the bank to get our cash.
In 10 years time no one will care.....

Instead of resorting to petty insults perhaps try and persuade me why you think it is a good idea that market choice for consumers is being reduced by certain energy companies because they choose not to have ineffective technology forced onto them. Because so far no-one in this thread has done that.

Me choosing not to have a smart meter installed has absolutely zero effect on anyone else getting one and makes no difference to the cost of the fuel being supplied to me or anyone else either. Your bills are not going to rise because of it and nor will anyone else’s.

And the fact that Eon are still ‘secretly’ offering tariffs that don’t require the installation of a smart meter – so long as you’re part of a club like the MSE energy one - just proves it makes absolutely no difference to their own systems and supply. So why force it on to customers?

simmotech

gt94sss2 wrote: »

If you are on an Eon tariff already, Eon don't charge exit fees for moving to another tariff with them

It's been confirmed by Eon on this board - see here

Thanks.

I still feel a bit miffed by EDF & MSE not making it clear up front about mandatory meters but since the Eon deal would cost another £478/yr, I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face!

And since the meters being fitted are SMETS2, my main objection has gone so I am being fitted with a set on Tuesday.

hareng

Takmon wrote: »

The only reason people are objecting now is because they have been told they have a choice and have an illogical resistance to change.

No its a serious inconvenience and loss of earnings of about 1 months salary.
Some people work from home and use that space which must be gutted to enable fitment ie 1 month.

Cardew

;)With my present meters I can easily by-pass them to grow a little weed;) - for personal use of course; the local dealers are ripping us off.:rotfl:


Smart meters make such enterprising practices easier for the authorities to detect.:T


Edit :rotfl:added just in case the irony wasn't appreciated.

marcadona

Cardew wrote: »

With my present meters I can easily by-pass them to grow a little weed - for personal use of course; the local dealers are ripping us off.


Smart meters make such enterprising practices easier for the authorities to detect.

I am really quite shocked at that statement. You are happy to admit you are doing something illegal. If I was the electricty board I would be right round your house. And I would be calling the police too. Personal use my !!!. There is a shop near me called hudrophonics and I know exactly what is it selling.

PennineAcute

molerat wrote: »

Suppliers are being pressurised by OFGEM with the threat of fines to install more smart meters. As no sensible person will have one installed they need to force them onto customers as a condition of the cheaper deals.

A person with sense is the one who does not come out with comments like this.

Takmon

hareng wrote: »

No its a serious inconvenience and loss of earnings of about 1 months salary.
Some people work from home and use that space which must be gutted to enable fitment ie 1 month.

I'm intrigued; I can't see how it would take anywhere near a months work to fit a smart meter. You current meter must be visible to be able to have readings so how can anything need gutting to replace the meter?.

Even if that was true it's a very unique scenario specific to you and your meter will need replacing eventually due to the end of its life or maybe even a fault so you should get a backup plan for your work in place.

Biggus_Dickus

Cardew wrote: »

With my present meters I can easily by-pass them to grow a little weed - for personal use of course; the local dealers are ripping us off.


Smart meters make such enterprising practices easier for the authorities to detect.

Totally agree; :mad::mad:

...Damn those bleedin’ smart-meters!!