Landlord using our address for mail

DAKOTA45

Hi... For some reason I've had problems logging back into this site.... Having to revert back to an old Username from way back...
I just wanted to add that, given the landlord seems to be in financial difficulties, might there be a problem when I try to get back my deposit when I leave?
Thanks (Nanki)

DAKOTA45

Thanks for the earlier PM... I have been unable to access the link you attached... there is definitely a glitch here... I'm looking at the older format now I've reverted back to a previous username!

DoaM

DAKOTA45 wrote: »

might there be a problem when I try to get back my deposit when I leave?

Only if he didn't register it with one of the deposit protection schemes.You should already know which scheme he used, if he did protect it?

Murphybear

G_M wrote: »

As already explained, show any bailiff evidence of who you are and that you now live there. They'll go away.


I would go a step further; you should (must by law) have an address in Eng/Wales for the landlord(s) named on your tenancy agreement. Write there, politely explaining that their postal redirection service seems to have expired (no need to know whether or not they really had one!) and you suggest they therefore either renew it or advise all their correspondants of their true address.


Off to keep the mail this time for them to collect, but that in future you'll have to return it to sender as it is not properly addressed to the recipient's address.


There is no law stopping you opening mail once it is delivered to the address on the envelope - it is interfering with the mail before it is delivered that is illegal.

There seems to be a lot of confusion about whether you can or cannot legally open someone's else's post before or after it has been delivered. From the government website

"The Postal Services Act 2000 clearly states that it is certainly illegal to open someone's post, or delay it reaching the owner.

The Act says: "A person commits an offence if, intending to act to a person's detriment and without reasonable excuse, he opens a postal packet which he knows or reasonably suspects has been incorrectly delivered to him."

Although throwing it away may not be the same as peeking, most people (and more importantly, lawyers) could argue that binning the mail "delays" the post indefinitely, which is a crime."

davidmcn

Murphybear wrote: »

From the government website

"The Postal Services Act 2000 clearly states that it is certainly illegal to open someone's post, or delay it reaching the owner.

The Act says: "A person commits an offence if, intending to act to a person's detriment and without reasonable excuse, he opens a postal packet which he knows or reasonably suspects has been incorrectly delivered to him."

I don't know what website you're quoting from (I've only found that quote on a Sun article, which isn't exactly the best source of legal advice) but it's simply wrong.

If you read the Act, it defines "correct delivery" as being to the correct address stated on the packet. The name on the packet doesn't matter. The Act doesn't concern itself with what happens after the letter has hit the correct doormat. Otherwise you'd in theory be able to call the cops if you got to your breakfast table and discovered your mum had already opened your mail.

Nasqueron

Murphybear wrote: »

[/B]

There seems to be a lot of confusion about whether you can or cannot legally open someone's else's post before or after it has been delivered. From the government website

"The Postal Services Act 2000 clearly states that it is certainly illegal to open someone's post, or delay it reaching the owner.

The Act says: "A person commits an offence if, intending to act to a person's detriment and without reasonable excuse, he opens a postal packet which he knows or reasonably suspects has been incorrectly delivered to him."

Although throwing it away may not be the same as peeking, most people (and more importantly, lawyers) could argue that binning the mail "delays" the post indefinitely, which is a crime."

It seems the government cannot read their own laws.


It is categorically NOT illegal to open the post, it is only an offence if they intend to act to a person's detriment - opening mail delivered and addressed to your address, for example, to find a return mail address, is perfectly legal. Binning it I agree is silly, takes 10 seconds to write "not known at this address" and then whack it back in the mail with the delivery address crossed out.

DAKOTA45

Well... the landlord knows his post is waiting here to be collected... he probably also knows the contents, I'd imagine... We called him and arranged for him to come and collect it, but he didn't turn up, so I wasted time waiting in...He's obviously not in a hurry to collect, even though he is local.
I hope he has safeguarded our deposit... the agent we used told us that we'd be dealing directly with the landlord in the future, as they had only been engaged in setting up the tenancy.

Alter_ego

Murphybear wrote: »

[/B]

Although throwing it away may not be the same as peeking, most people (and more importantly, lawyers) could argue that binning the mail "delays" the post indefinitely, which is a crime."

They could only argue that if you threw it away BEFORE delivery.

G_M

DAKOTA45 wrote: »

....
I hope he has safeguarded our deposit... the agent we used told us that we'd be dealing directly with the landlord in the future, as they had only been engaged in setting up the tenancy.

You should already know this. He had 30 days to protect the deposit AND send you the 'Prescribed Infomation' about the protection.


read:

* Deposits: payment, protection and return


Check the protection yourself with each scheme.

DAKOTA45

Thank you for the last post...I'm having lots of problems logging in since the change of name.. I was Nanki and now I'm Dakota45... No idea how that happened, but still, I'd quite like 'Nanki' back if possible, please...
Ok... I've found something from DPS saying that my deposit is protected... so that's a relief!