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Tax got me confused with sister twice and now I owe them?
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KSMC
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Hi Everyone,
This is a confusing story but here goes.
I have been working since I graduated:
1.Job A from 2013-Nov 2017 salaried job paid taxes through wage
2.Job B Dec 2017 - Sep 2018 salaried job (part time) paid taxes through wage
3.Job C Dec 2017 - Present salaried job (part time) paid taxes through wages.
For a short period I was working 2 part time jobs (Jobs B&C) and was being taxed 20% on them both as I had earned over the tax free amount in Job A.
I received a letter from HMRC with my job details and earnings PLUS my sisters. Rang them, they fixed it.
A few months after...
My sister received a letter from HMRC with her job details and earnings PLUS my details. (Our national insurance numbers are very similar and both are initials are the same so they mixed are numbers up twice)
Today I have received a letter saying I owe £400 tax for financial year 17-18.
Checked payslip and I have paid tax on everyone. At some point through early 18 I was paying 20% on both part time jobs, so if anything I thought I would get a rebate.
I have rang today and they have basically said they are correct and there isn’t nothing I can do.
I have a feeling I’ve paid tax to my sisters national insurance and not mine. This is why I apparently owe.
I don’t know what to do, so any help would be appreciated!
Thanks, Katie
This is a confusing story but here goes.
I have been working since I graduated:
1.Job A from 2013-Nov 2017 salaried job paid taxes through wage
2.Job B Dec 2017 - Sep 2018 salaried job (part time) paid taxes through wage
3.Job C Dec 2017 - Present salaried job (part time) paid taxes through wages.
For a short period I was working 2 part time jobs (Jobs B&C) and was being taxed 20% on them both as I had earned over the tax free amount in Job A.
I received a letter from HMRC with my job details and earnings PLUS my sisters. Rang them, they fixed it.
A few months after...
My sister received a letter from HMRC with her job details and earnings PLUS my details. (Our national insurance numbers are very similar and both are initials are the same so they mixed are numbers up twice)
Today I have received a letter saying I owe £400 tax for financial year 17-18.
Checked payslip and I have paid tax on everyone. At some point through early 18 I was paying 20% on both part time jobs, so if anything I thought I would get a rebate.
I have rang today and they have basically said they are correct and there isn’t nothing I can do.
I have a feeling I’ve paid tax to my sisters national insurance and not mine. This is why I apparently owe.
I don’t know what to do, so any help would be appreciated!
Thanks, Katie
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I would suggest (after recalculating your 17/18 tax position),
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/tax/income-tax-how-much-should-you-pay/income-tax/
and if you still think HMRC in error:
a) A Subject Access Request to HMRC,
b) Contact your MP and ask them to intervene,
c) A complaint to HMRC,
d) Letter to the ICO ( https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/ ) about HMRC's data breach in notifying you of your sister's earnings and tax affairs. Ask your sister to do likewise.Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.0 -
You haven't actually said if the letter you received (a P800 calculation?) includes your sisters income details or not.
"Paying tax" on all three jobs you had in 2017:18 doesn't necessarily mean you cannot owe more tax.I have a feeling I’ve paid tax to my sisters national insurance and not mine. This is why I apparently owe
Bit confused by this, what exactly do you mean?0 -
Thank you for your replies!
The P800 I have received has only income details on.
In the past, when they had confused mine and my sisters details it was because they had put my sisters national insurance number with my details. So I was paying tax for around 6 months at job C with my sisters national insurance number. Job C I found had made a 1 digit error when entering my national insurance number, which then someone in HMRC have assigned to my sister (even though the number Job C entered wasn’t my sisters national insurance number, it was 1 letter out) HMRC have admitted this and apologised. It’s really confusing so I apologise if I’m not explaining myself well.0 -
What was your total income for the tax year and how much tax have you already paid?0
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Have you looked at the link I supplied and calculated your tax due?
Personal allowance for 17/18 was £11,500.Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.0 -
Alice_Holt wrote: »Have you looked at the link I supplied and calculated your tax due?
Personal allowance for 17/18 was £11,850.
Personal Allowance for 2017/18 was £11500.0 -
When you had the two part time jobs you may have been given the personal allowance against each job resulting in not enough tax being deducted.
I suggest you post your total income and the total tax paid for each year on the Cutting Tax board and someone cam check the figures for you.0 -
When you had the two part time jobs you may have been given the personal allowance against each job resulting in not enough tax being deducted.
I suggest you post your total income and the total tax paid for each year on the Cutting Tax board and someone cam check the figures for you.
If she declared both jobs they might have split the allowance so paid the tax due on both.
Put your figures into listentotaxman.com combined for the year. You can check your ni is right as it should be on every pay slip. Then add up your two combined part time wages and see if the ni, tax amounts are the same as what’s on listentotaxman as it will work out what’s due and you’ll be able to work out if you did underpay.
£400 is around £2k before tax over the allowance:T:T :beer: :beer::beer::beer: to the lil one:beer::beer::beer:
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Little update,
Rang HMRC and set up a payment plan for the tax I supposedly owe. I just wanted it dealt with. All happy.
Today I received a letter from HMRC, all details correct.
My sister recieved a letter, her details, her national insurance number, her job plus my job details!!
Had to call HMRC again, they have no clue how it’s happening. I really don’t know what to do!0 -
Stop ringing them & put it in writing & get your sister to do the same, maybe even in the same envelope!0
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