Diesel or Petrol new car? Your opinion.

Cisco001

I currently have company car and lease come to an end soon.

And thus, I am looking to get my own car as my company would only allow me to take on 're-allocate' car instead of ordering new car.

All the cars in the pool are diesel which make BIK super expensive.

I am no petrol head and my company require the car to be under 6 year for car allowance
I decided I may just get a new Dacia Sandero Stepway such that I don't need to worry about how to pick an used car.

So here come to the question, should I take petrol or Diesel?

Diesel is £1600 more expensive.

I currently do 12000 miles per annual of which 85% is motorway.
I intend to keep the car for 5 years.
By reading different reviews on engine and calculating fuel price based on real mpg, it seems diesel is more suitable?

But what do you think about the resell? Will the car be difficult to sell in 5-6 years time deal to those congestion charge?

EU 6 diesel engine seems fine at the moment, but in 5 years time, there may be charge on them...

I know no one have crystal ball to know what the gov will do, but if you in same situation, which one you choose?


By the way, if anyone saw good deals on cash purchase on any small family car or small SUV, please let me know.

motorguy

I dont think it will matter a whole pile come resale time in 6 years time, it will still sell whether its a diesel or a petrol.

At 12,000 PA i'd be opting for the petrol variant. You'll get away with a diesel if you're doing biggish motorway miles but they are more likely to be troublesome with DPFs etc.

All IMHO of course

motorguy

Why a Sandero though? They're "OK" but you could buy a 6 month to year old mainstream car for similar money.

2018 Astra 1.4i starts at £9,500

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201901174041868?sort=price-asc&make=VAUXHALL&model=ASTRA&fuel-type=Petrol&advertising-location=at_cars&minimum-badge-engine-size=1.4&postcode=bt622hb&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&year-from=2018&radius=1500&page=1

Or value brand cars with longer warranties -
Hyundai i30 with balance of manufacturers 5 year warranty for £10,997

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201811022070698?year-from=2018&make=HYUNDAI&model=I30&fuel-type=Petrol&minimum-badge-engine-size=1.4&postcode=bt622hb&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&sort=price-asc&page=1

2018 KIA Ceed with balance of 7 year warranty £11,499

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201811062167937?make=KIA&model=CEED&sort=price-asc&fuel-type=Petrol&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=bt622hb&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&year-from=2018&radius=1500&page=1

sevenhills

Cisco001 wrote: »

EU 6 diesel engine seems fine at the moment, but in 5 years time, there may be charge on them...

I dont think that there will be any more charge to EURO 6 cars. Look up what the real emissions are, for the car you are buying



https://equaindex.com/

System

motorguy wrote: »

You'll get away with a diesel if you're doing biggish motorway miles but they are more likely to be troublesome with DPFs etc.

Hyperbole. Only applies to those doing short journeys. DMFs are also fitted to petrol engines too and CATs fail.

motorguy

Tarambor wrote: »

Hyperbole. Only applies to those doing short journeys. DMFs are also fitted to petrol engines too and CATs fail.

Its not hyperbole. They ARE more likely to be troublesome. Thats based on my experience motor trading over the last 20 years or so BTW.

And no it doesnt only apply to those doing short journies - they can be problematic full stop.

DMFs are fitted to petrol cars yes, however there is much less vibration at startup and turn off and at idle in a petrol car than there is in a diesel. Thats why you tend to only ever hear of problems with them in diesels.

Catalytic converters are a different ball game entirely, and give 1/100th of the trouble of DPFs.

At 12,000 miles per year theres little advantage in a diesel, and there is more risk with regards to reliability and big bills.

motorguy

jeepjunkie wrote: »

80,000 miles on our DPF diesel on mostly country roads/A roads. Rarely a motorway.


No issues with DPF but EGR was replaced for free.


My dad had the petrol equiv and was ~15-20 mpg less.


I know what I would choose if doing the OPs journey.


Cheers

Assuming 45mpg v 65mpg and 12,000 miles a year, the O/P would save £30 a month with a diesel. It would take him 51 months to recover the £1,600 extra it would take to buy it in the first place and then during the last 9 months he'd only be saving £30 a month.

The car will be 2 years out of warranty by the time the O/P sells it, so even your simple EGR valve failure would knock any savings at all on the head during those latter 2 years

If you take your best case scenario of 15mpg difference and 45mpg v 60mpg then it would be month 68 before the O/P would break even with the diesel cost and he'd have sold it 8 months previous.

Tokk

At more like 20k miles the diesel really does make more sense... At 12k, I'd go with the petrol far more likely than not.

The diesel might work out if you're doing 12k on lower quantity longer mileage runs - say 2-3 days/week at 50 miles a day rather than 5 at 25 or so...

Cisco001

motorguy wrote: »

Why a Sandero though? They're "OK" but you could buy a 6 month to year old mainstream car for similar money.

2018 Astra 1.4i starts at £9,500

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201901174041868?sort=price-asc&make=VAUXHALL&model=ASTRA&fuel-type=Petrol&advertising-location=at_cars&minimum-badge-engine-size=1.4&postcode=bt622hb&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&year-from=2018&radius=1500&page=1

Or value brand cars with longer warranties -
Hyundai i30 with balance of manufacturers 5 year warranty for £10,997

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201811022070698?year-from=2018&make=HYUNDAI&model=I30&fuel-type=Petrol&minimum-badge-engine-size=1.4&postcode=bt622hb&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&sort=price-asc&page=1

2018 KIA Ceed with balance of 7 year warranty £11,499

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201811062167937?make=KIA&model=CEED&sort=price-asc&fuel-type=Petrol&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=bt622hb&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&year-from=2018&radius=1500&page=1

Thanks for suggestion. But I am leading towards small SUV at the moment, and it is only £10k for petrol engine.

Cisco001

motorguy wrote: »

Assuming 45mpg v 65mpg and 12,000 miles a year, the O/P would save £30 a month with a diesel. It would take him 51 months to recover the £1,600 extra it would take to buy it in the first place and then during the last 9 months he'd only be saving £30 a month.

The car will be 2 years out of warranty by the time the O/P sells it, so even your simple EGR valve failure would knock any savings at all on the head during those latter 2 years

If you take your best case scenario of 15mpg difference and 45mpg v 60mpg then it would be month 68 before the O/P would break even with the diesel cost and he'd have sold it 8 months previous.

Hi, I did a compare on 40mpg @115p per l and 55 mpg @ 125p

i am driving renault captur diesel and doing 55 mpg.
40 mpg for petrol is coming from some real mpg on website.

The difference is £330 difference in fuel cost.

so if I keep the car for 5 - 6 years, it break even...

Anyway, you guys think petrol more sensible?

Cisco001

jeepjunkie wrote: »

I can only talk genarally... My friend's wife bought a petrol engined SUV as "she did not care what was under the bonnet..."


She does now as the mpg is crap and stuck with it under PCP for many years...


All good fun

It is purely the driving position for me as I am quite short.

I drove Seat Leon & Ford Focus for couple of month before driving current small SUV.

There is a roundabout which I need to get around 2 times a day.
The driving position for ordinary car is so low that the car on next lane obstruct my view on oncoming traffic.

Another reason is I require a fog to enter my company car park. If I am driving ordinary car, my hand is just not long enough to reach the sensor without getting out of the car.

Small SUV is a lot better.