Being charged £100 fine for parking ticket I did not receive

Fruitcake

KeithP wrote: »

Parkingfines, that's an unusual signature you have there.

Somewhat surprised to see that.

Fruitcake wrote: »

Especially as it may be in breach of MSE rules.

Le_Kirk wrote: »

I wonder if it is even allowed under forum rules!

It has now gone.

Coupon-mad

runningfool wrote: »

I have looked on NEWBIES and to be honest I have no idea where to start! There are so many things listed there I don't know what I am looking for. !

Try starting with the Q&A about Indigo at railway stations...

Handbags-at-dawn

My guess is this was a Southeastern station.

Usually, Indigo pass on their unpaid railway station tickets to debt collectors called ZZPS, who send out scary letters on behalf of Indigo. After 6 months, when the time limit for Magistrates Court proceedings has passed, they go quiet. It’s over. The ticket has timed out.

With Southeastern it’s a bit different. Indigo pass the unpaid tickets back to the railway company. Using the trading name Debt Recovery and Prosecution Services, Southeastern send out their own scary letters. At some point they increase the price to £165. After 6 months, they go quiet. It’s over. The ticket has timed out.

The scary letters may look official but they are packed with lies. It’s a massive scam. The penalties are unenforceable. No-one but the Court can impose a penalty for a breach of the Byelaws - as confirmed in the DfT’s letter here (bottom of first page) https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/311011/response/770331/attach/2/F0013227%20Follow%20Up%20Reply.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1

nosferatu1001

Its a bit different, and breaches Indiigos contract and the DPA to boot
They may not pass on data to the railway company.

Handbags-at-dawn

nosferatu1001 wrote: »

Its a bit different, and breaches Indiigos contract and the DPA to boot
They may not pass on data to the railway company.

Southeastern (aka DRPS) get the keeper data from the DVLA themselves, manually.

nosferatu1001

But how do they know which VRM to request data for?
Indigo passes this on
The VRM is PII
It may not be passed on without the consent of the data subject.

Handbags-at-dawn

Consent is not the only legal basis for processing/sharing data. Legitimate interest is another.

runningfool

Thanks for your replies all - I contacted the BPA (and my local MP - yet to hear) and I attached the letter I received. This was their reply:


"It would appear from the attached the charge was issued to your vehicle at the Railway Station car Park in *****. The details supplied show that London and Southwestern Railway Limited Trading as Debt Reocvery and Prosectution Service are the company who is pursuing you in this matter. This company is not a subcriber to the BPA’s Approved Operator Scheme.


To offer you some general advice, at this stage as you have been provided with photographic evidence of the ticket being affixed to your vehicle, you are best placed in contacting the company to see if they can negotiate or discuss the matter further. You may also wish to consider seeking legal advice and contesting the charge via the legal system, but as this is not something we have jurisdiction over, we will be unable to assist you further at this time."

Not looking great TBH...bummer...

runningfool

Handbags-at-dawn wrote: »

My guess is this was a Southeastern station.

Usually, Indigo pass on their unpaid railway station tickets to debt collectors called ZZPS, who send out scary letters on behalf of Indigo. After 6 months, when the time limit for Magistrates Court proceedings has passed, they go quiet. It’s over. The ticket has timed out.

With Southeastern it’s a bit different. Indigo pass the unpaid tickets back to the railway company. Using the trading name Debt Recovery and Prosecution Services, Southeastern send out their own scary letters. At some point they increase the price to £165. After 6 months, they go quiet. It’s over. The ticket has timed out.

The scary letters may look official but they are packed with lies. It’s a massive scam. The penalties are unenforceable. No-one but the Court can impose a penalty for a breach of the Byelaws - as confirmed in the DfT’s letter here (bottom of first page) https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/311011/response/770331/attach/2/F0013227%20Follow%20Up%20Reply.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1

Thank you!

waamo

runningfool wrote: »

Not looking great TBH...bummer...

Looks fine to me. Just ignore them.