PCN From Wing Parking

Redx

at this moment in time it has nothing to do with you


the hirer should follow the advice in that NEWBIES thread, especially the edna basher advice at the bottom of post #1


use a laptop, not a phone


third thread down from the top of this forum

Le_Kirk

Redx wrote: »

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This thread moves around due to people posting at the bottom of threads that they shouldn't. Today it is first thread! For avoidance of doubt it is this one: -

**NEWBIES!! PRIVATE PARKING TICKET? OLD OR NEW? **READ THESE FAQS FIRST!**

The_Deep

I was under the impression that councils were not allowed to do this, Was It Maidenhead that got its knuckles wrapped?

Lucky_Lee

at this moment in time it has nothing to do with you


the hirer should follow the advice in that NEWBIES thread, especially the edna basher advice at the bottom of post #1

Yeah but wouldn’t the rental company forward my brothers details to the pcn company later on?and the whole point of this cat and mouse game is for these private parking tickets companies don’t find out the keeper or the main driver even thou he wasn’t the driver on this day :eek:

Redx

yes the rental company should follow BVRLA guidelines and follow POFA2012 and name the hirer, who is also the day to day keeper on the day in question

that hirer MAY be the driver, or may not, as in this case

that HIRER can then decide if they should appeal as keeper (hirer) or name the actual driver

until then its nothing to do with you, as its not in your name, so if its not in your name , YOU do nothing (other than help by doing the research)

Coupon-mad

If this was a windscreen PCN, don't use Edna Basher's appeal that tells the PPC they've failed with their Notice to Hirer. Because there is no NTH yet and you want to keep the rental firm out of it.

For a windscreen PCN, wait till day 25 then send (NOT BY POST!) Wing the usual NEWBIES thread template and then the rental firm will never be contacted. It is OK for a rental lessee to call themselves the 'keeper' because they were.

You can remove the bit about PDT machines from the template.

Then repeat the NEWBIES template to the Council, being mindful of the shortened appeal deadline (14 days I think, just do it immediately). The hirer can safely add, at that stage, that they cannot be held liable because the driver has never been identified and this is not 'relevant land' being Council owned.

Then win at POPLA by pointing out the stuff discussed today, in POPLA Decisions.

Lucky_Lee

Thanks for your help coupon_m on this so far... it’s much appreciated really

If this was a windscreen PCN, don't use Edna Basher's appeal that tells the PPC they've failed with their Notice to Hirer. Because there is no NTH yet and you want to keep the rental firm out of it.

For a windscreen PCN, wait till day 25 then send (NOT BY POST!) Wing the usual NEWBIES thread template and then the rental firm will never be contacted. It is OK for a rental lessee to call themselves the 'keeper' because they were.

You can remove the bit about PDT machines from the template

Yes I want to keep the hire car from finding out ... I also don’t want my brother finding out I go a ticket.

So you’re saying I should wait 25 day then appeal to both the private company and council right?!

Should I use my name on that appeal?

Sorry I am bit slow on this. I want to understand clearly... and sorry you have to explain this to me again :beer: cheers

Coupon-mad

So you’re saying I should wait 25 day then appeal to both the private company and council right?!

No.

I told you it's a 3 stage appeal.

Should I use my name on that appeal?

Obviously. And your postal address, otherwise how will they know who its's from?

What you don't do is blab about being the driver and add words to the template appeal in the newbies thread, which to be fair, already tells you what to say, and to add your name and address...

Diarise day 25 right now.

Check that the PCN can be appealed online/by email.

Why not do what I said and Google it and read some like yours?

Copy all the other Wing threads and if not used to the forum, Google Wing POPLA and read some there.

Lucky_Lee

Okay, thanks. I appreciate it.

Lucky_Lee

Update on my appeal....

I need urgent help on what to do next please...

After I waited the 25 days I’ve sent them the Newbies thread template. I haven’t heard from them for 2months, so I called them up yesterday and they’ve informed me that they did reply to my email the following day rejecting my appeal. (BTW I didn’t receive any emails from them at all - Ive even checked my junk mail nothing). So what do I do now, please advise?