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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder
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Well, surely you know that Japanese manufacturers happen to have plants in other EU countries, not just in the UK. AFAIK those plants are not being closed. If they were, your argument might hold some water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Honda_assembly_plants
Honda does not have any car manufacturing plant in entire Europe except in UK.Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.0 -
SouthLondonUser wrote: »So now it is the EU's fault, of course!
Well, surely you know that Japanese manufacturers happen to have plants in other EU countries, not just in the UK. AFAIK those plants are not being closed. If they were, your argument might hold some water.
Honda's only other remotely European plant is in Turkey.
Nissan only have the Sunderland plant (though are in jv's with Renault).
Let's not get in the way of facts.
Technology, speed of transport, ease of access through trade agreements are changing the way global companies do business. Companies operate ahead of politicians. That's a fact of life. Every decision has a consequence that will be exploited if there's money to be made.
China is where the future lies as well. Potential market there is huge.0 -
China is where the future lies as well. Potential market there is huge.
And India, which are both in Asia, same continent where Japan is.
So, it makes senses to make cars in their home land.
Also, Honda's market share in UK was dropping steadily in last few years. They could not compete with other brands especially Kia/Hyundai.Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.0 -
I said "Japanese manufacturers", not "Honda only".Thrugelmir wrote: »Honda's only other remotely European plant is in Turkey.
Nissan only have the Sunderland plant (though are in jv's with Renault).
Let's not get in the way of facts.
Nissan has at least one manufacturing plant in Spain (not far from Barcelona, if I remember correctly). Google it ! OK, given the Nissan - Renault relationship I'm honestly not sure to what extent they can be classified as Japanese, or French plants, or both, or whatever.
But Toyota also has plants in France, the Czech Republic and Portugal.
https://www.toyota-europe.com/world-of-toyota/feel/operations/made-in-europe/manufacturing
When Japanese plants in those EU countries start to be closed to repatriate production in Japan, then, by all means, feel free to say that the EU-Japan deal has made European plants redundant.
What did you say? You apologise profusely for accusing me of saying something you thought was false but is, in fact, true? Is that what you just said?
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SouthLondonUser wrote: »I said "Japanese manufacturers", not "Honda only".
That leaves Toyota.
Mazda has no European presence.
Swindon plant has been running at under capacity for years. With one line closed for 10 years or so.0 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Honda_assembly_plants
Honda does not have any car manufacturing plant in entire Europe except in UK.
They have a plant in Turkey, not Europe but supplying European market, I wonder if they will close that one?'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Turkey is not in EU so there is no Brexit angle
Turkey is also closer to many Asian countries, so can't really comment on that.Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.0 -
The two major parties need to decide where they stand on the issue of EU membership. The days where they think they can be all things to all people are over.
I agree, but I think the first past the post system needs to go to achieve that. Then instead of them having to be all things to all people, we get representation by someone with a clear voice for us.0 -
They have a plant in Turkey, not Europe but supplying European market, I wonder if they will close that one?
Honda invested money to up production in 2018. Newer plant, most likely cheaper to run and more productive. Swindon relies on over 200 articulated lorries a day to keep the plant running. As only holds a days parts in stock at any one time. With weather , road and motorway closures etc not an efficient way to run a plant.0 -
Turkey is not in EU so there is no Brexit angle
Turkey is also closer to many Asian countries, so can't really comment on that.
Turkey is in a Customs union with the EU 'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0
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