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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • Conina
    Conina Posts: 393 Forumite
    adindas wrote: »
    Exactly the point. That is the main reason why they keep making the Irish hard border as an issue where it shold not be the problem fom the beginning. Beside losing the UK net contribution the EU is really nervous if the UK is not tied to the EU and after a decade of brexit, the UK triumph the EU will be over.
    Although remainers deny this France and Italy among others have come pretty close in the past to wanting out and things haven't improved for either recently under Macron or the failing Italian coalition, then there's The Netherlands and Austria, Poland, Hungary ..... again despite what some try & say here it really wouldn't take much of a push for a major disruption to start.

    Like Thrugelmir I'd say it won't happen quickly barring the EU having another major dilemma that they can't solve like the immigration fiasco but something will certainly change, and change big.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    edited 30 July 2019 at 7:14PM
    buglawton wrote: »

    Something will budge.

    The Irish can simply veto. Remember there's a United Ireland at stake. A far bigger prize.
  • Zuzel, Triple Zero, are you not willing to admit you were wrong? Are you not willing to recognise that the map does not show seats held, like initially claimed by zuzel? Do you not recognise that, if it showed seats held, it would massively overstate the results achieved by the Brexit Party?

    When someone calls out your fake news, is your reaction to just pretend it did not happen?

    How would you have reacted if I had posted something factually false and refused to acknowledge it?

    I do not know if it was sloppiness or a deliberate attempt to deceive, but the fact remains that what you posted was factually false. Everyone can draw their own conclusions from your reluctance to acknowledge it and apologise.
  • phillw
    phillw Posts: 5,665 Forumite
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    edited 31 July 2019 at 12:57AM
    That's genuinely funny, coming as it does from a remainer - and one who refuses to accept that we are leaving the EU.

    There is a difference between someone refusing to believe something and refusing to accept something. The former suggests there is a detachment from reality, the later means you're standing up and fighting for the good of the country.
    Conina wrote: »
    Although remainers deny this France and Italy among others have come pretty close in the past to wanting out and things haven't improved for either recently under Macron or the failing Italian coalition, then there's The Netherlands and Austria, Poland, Hungary ..... again despite what some try & say here it really wouldn't take much of a push for a major disruption to start.

    Sure, the rise of Facism in the US and Europe is quite scary. We should be rejecting it, not embracing it. So far it's only the UK and the US where it's reached an epidemic.
  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    movilogo wrote: »
    Current £ to € rate is not the worst. It fell more against € in the past, especially during 2009 recession.

    That's the point, recession happened when UK was in EU. So what's big deal if it happens again while UK is out of EU?

    Incidentally, unemployment is lowest since UK joined EU.

    For those like you who think the Euro is a weak currency, think on this.......
    This year (w/c 21st January) is the 20 year anniversary of the introduction of the Euro.
    1999 £1 = €1.60. 2019 £1 = €1.09 The pound now worth 32% less!
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • phillw wrote: »
    Sure, the rise of Facism in the US and Europe is quite scary. We should be rejecting it, not embracing it. So far it's only the UK and the US where it's reached an epidemic.

    Thereby proving that you haven’t a clue about fascism or what it is. You don’t even know how to spell it.
    The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.
  • triathlon
    triathlon Posts: 969 Forumite
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    Why are we discussing what is becoming for me a very dull subject on a board that is about the housing market??, there are hundreds of others places where Brexit could be preached about without bringing more threads to this board, one is too many in my view.
  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,092 Forumite
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    triathlon wrote: »
    Why are we discussing what is becoming for me a very dull subject on a board that is about the housing market??, there are hundreds of others places where Brexit could be preached about without bringing more threads to this board, one is too many in my view.

    This board is for house prices and the economy.
    Very recently you were discussing over breakfast with your friend about GBP falling and being property snapped up by foreign investors, so surely you see there is a link between brexit and house prices?

    Yes we’re all getting fed up after 3 years, doesn’t mean it’s not a big deal though.
  • adindas
    adindas Posts: 6,856 Forumite
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    Thereby proving that you haven’t a clue about fascism or what it is. You don’t even know how to spell it.


    It demonstrates how desperate the remoaners use every single opportunity to discredit Brexit. Comparing the current movement of the tori and/or Brexit party leader with the movement from Benito Mussolini. Adolf Hitler, Ant!nio de Oliveira Salazar, etc is the most ferocious one.

    There is fundamental difference between the two.

    Fascism stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and forcible suppression of opposition

    Just the opposite the current movement is to uphold democracy. Keep in mind Brexit is the result of referendum and voting in the parliament. The current leaders only use democratic way in line with constitution, none of them are dictatorial leaders. They instead need be crown as democratic champions.
  • Zuzel
    Zuzel Posts: 188 Forumite
    triathlon wrote: »
    Why are we discussing what is becoming for me a very dull subject on a board that is about the housing market??, there are hundreds of others places where Brexit could be preached about without bringing more threads to this board, one is too many in my view.
    Pssst.
    Nobody forces you to post a comment here.

    BTW, I see you post in other areas of the same "Housing" part of the forum.
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