Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

movilogo

borntobefree wrote: »

Yay! The Brexit Party didn’t win Peterborough :T:T:T:T

Good start to the day.

Mind that Brexit party came 2nd by narrow margin.
Lib Dem, Conservative are behind Brexit party.
That is a remarkable achievement for Brexit party.

Labour's official policy is still honouring Brexit.

mayonnaise

Peterborough Brexit vote 2016 : 61%
Peterborough Brexit Party Ltd. vote 2019: 29%

:beer:

StevieJ

mayonnaise wrote: »

Peterborough Brexit vote 2016 : 61%
Peterborough Brexit Party Ltd. vote 2019: 29%

:beer:

Not so remarkable when looked at like that

borntobefree

In the EU referendum Leave got 53,216 votes in Peterborough. In this by-election the brexit party got 9,801 votes.

StevieJ

borntobefree wrote: »

In the EU referendum Leave got 53,216 votes in Peterborough. In this by-election the brexit party got 9,801 votes.

Not sure that stacks up on a 'like for like' basis? Obviously different populations.

ben501

mayonnaise wrote: »

Peterborough Brexit vote 2016 : 61%
Peterborough Brexit Party Ltd. vote 2019: 29%

:beer:

borntobefree wrote: »

In the EU referendum Leave got 53,216 votes in Peterborough. In this by-election the brexit party got 9,801 votes.

Oh goody. A game of lies, damn lies and statistics. Let's see who can come up with the best.


In 2016, 34176 voted to remain. That's more than the number who could be bothered to vote in the by election.
It should be noted while we're making these claims that the voting area is different (I'm assuming) as the electorate was considerably bigger in 2016.


In 2019, despite there being 15 parties to choose from, one that didn't even exist a few months ago managed to to get over a quarter of votes cast.


It's a pity we can't know why people voted as they did. I expect a lot of those voting Labour or Tory would have still done so if it was a plank of wood standing. If they'd shown the same apathy as the majority it may have been a much different story.

Arklight

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

It is not the eu that has kept the peace, it is the UN and NATO.

Let's face it, the country that seems to think it controls the eu is not known for it's love of peace, more for it's love of controlling other countries.

And the award for the most astonishing deficit in knowledge about his own country's history goes to...

Arklight

Moby wrote: »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-vote-d-day-anniversary-veterans-ww2-eu-europe-a8946046.html
On the 75th anniversary of D-Day, more than 120 military veterans have signed a letter warning that peace and friendship in Europe is threatened by Brexit.
The 122 veterans, whose service spans the period from the Second World War to modern-day conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, said that the peace which has prevailed in Europe since 1945 “should not be taken for granted”.
And they challenged the invocation of wartime patriotism by the Leave camp, pointing out that it was Sir Winston Churchill who called for the creation of a “European family” to prevent another descent into bloodshed.

Churchill’s words helped inspire the creation of the Common Market, which evolved into the European Union with “one main purpose - to create lasting peace by entwining our economies and societies together on a continent once ravaged by war,” they said.
“Nato does not keep the peace in Europe – it keeps peace for Europe. It is the EU that keeps peace in Europe, because when you trade, you do not fight.

Not possible. They fought and died for Brexit, and they'd do so again. A lot of red faced middle aged men who've never been near a war (or a veteran) say so, so it must be true.

mayonnaise

ben501 wrote: »

In 2019, despite there being 15 parties to choose from, one that didn't even exist a few months ago managed to to get over a quarter of votes cast.

Oh goody. That 'new party' trope again.
It's UKIP Mark II.
It's Farage's latest vehicle.
It existed since 1993 under the UKIP name and since 1991 as the Anti-Federalist League.
There's absolutely nothing new about The Brexit Party Ltd.

chucknorris

StevieJ wrote: »

Not so remarkable when looked at like that

Especially when you consider that they were 2/7 (best price on betfair and 1/6 with most mainstream bookies, and only 1/9 with William Hill) to win the day before the vote. I've never witnessed a 1/6 horse getting beat, and punters cheering 'well done! What a good race you ran'.