Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

phillw

Backbiter wrote: »

Lord Sugar managed to avoid the sack from the BBC.

exhibit 1. joke about football team selling sunglasses on the beach

exhibit 2. joke that royal baby is a chimpanzee.

Alan Sugar didn't dehumanize anyone.

wintersunshine

Ok so polling in the Sunday papers look horrendous for Remain! Why the heck can't we get our !!!! together? It's so frustrating!

Zero_Sum

Theophile wrote: »

Yes, the one thing that's going to happen is a levelling of wealth and living standards between the previous poor countries and the rich ones.
As such, the A8 enlargement has been a huge success.
Take a trip to Prague, Vilnius or Gdansk and have a look at their living standards, you might be surprised.


And, as mentioned so often before, from 2004, there were mechanisms in place to restrict immigration from A8 accesion countries. The UK decided not to implement these.

Interesting that you selectively chose 3 of the wealthiest cities in that area (2 of which are capitals) which generate plenty of money via tourism.

How is their equivalent of Port Talbot or Hartlepool doing?

Yugoslavia had an issue whereby the wealtier parts (slovenia & croatia) werent happy that their money was going to prop up serbia. And what happened? Nationalist parties were voted in & civil war ensued. Sound familiar?

I actually know a few Poles who live in Hartlepool.theyre all decent lads but the area has high unemployment so they are genuinely taking jobs away from the locals. There is no reason for them to be here.

Zero_Sum

phillw wrote: »

That ship sailed in March 2016 when people voted for a campaign that was overtly xenophobic and very likely illegal.



No, only the racists were branded a racist. They didn't like it because it hurt their feelings, but they shouldn't be so racist.



The biggest problem was caused by the xenophobics who initially didn't want to integrate with newly arrived immigrants and so there became small pockets where immigrants concentrated and then those pockets got larger.

In areas where that didn't happen then immigrants naturally integrated and people lived happily together.

As you've given the xenophobics special privilege to be xenophobic and not to have to change their view, then there is no way to solve any of the problems.

Until you accept that voting leave is inherently xenophobic, then I don't think the country will ever be able to come back together and we will be forever divided.

And no, before you say it I'm not labelling people xenophobic undeservedly. The ball is most certainly in leave voters courts for changing their perception of people from other country. My perception of leave voters is 100% sound.

I tell you what is racist. All the London lot who are quite happy to turn a blind eye to all the modern day slavery that goes on just so they can get their cup of coffee from Pret in the morning. It really is sickening.

Due to the cost of housing in the capital, a lot of the low paid service jobs there are pretty much eastern european slavery. Brought here by gang lords & shacked up 4 or 5 to a room.

SouthLondonUser

Generalising a bit?
There is modern day slavery, especially in businesses like nail salons or car washes. But Pret and coffe shops????

SouthLondonUser

Zero_Sum wrote: »

Comments on a duff link?

What is duff about an investigation, by the journalist who revealed the Cambridge Analytica scandal, on how social media distorts politics and on how it allows political advertising to target specific segments of the electorate in violation to our laws?
I do not get what is duff about that. If you could maybe explain, I'd be most grateful.

buglawton

Thrugelmir wrote: »

National Lottery is owned by a Canadian Pension Fund as an example. In the UK we are very short termist as investors. Jam today rather than jam tomorrow. Until the mindset changes. The UK has no option but to sell assets to fund it's national income deficit.

Upsetting international investors won't help the UK borrow the money it requires. As Carney said a while back. The UK needs the charity of strangers. Reputation is key.

Statement from the UK govt agency The Gambling Commision about the National Lottery:

"The current operator is Camelot UK Lotteries Limited. We awarded a ten year licence to Camelot on 1 February 2009. This licence was extended to 2023 in March 2012."

The the Lottery is operated by a Canadian owned company whose subcontractor status comes up for review in 4 years time.

buglawton

wintersunshine wrote: »

Ok so polling in the Sunday papers look horrendous for Remain! Why the heck can't we get our !!!! together? It's so frustrating!

It's horrendous because the righteous tone of most Remain posts here telling us all how logically, morally and economically correct it is not to leave, or to leave BINO, is going to be flat contradicted at the ballot box.

First it'll be the European elections which for the UK are an opinion poll and dry run for the Brexit party. The real upset will be the next general election. It's the very essence of democracy.

Tromking

buglawton wrote: »

It's horrendous because the righteous tone of most Remain posts here telling us all how logically, morally and economically correct it is not to leave, or to leave BINO, is going to be flat contradicted at the ballot box.

Yeah, who would have thought that the widespread demonising of ordinary leave voters for three years would encourage a reaction that we’re witnessing in the polls.

SouthLondonUser

Yes, who would have thought that...
If only there were a way to debunk myths and fake news without making the other party feel like an ignorant idiot...