Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

LHW99

The tests may have been designed in the EU, but it was people in the UK that purposefully looked for loop holes in those tests.

There are no "loopholes" as such. A product will either be compliant, or not.
The issue is that there is generally no requirements on manufacturers to test every item manufactured (not possible anyway as many tests are destructive), and products based on an initially passed design may or may not be required to be retested prior to being granted compliance. And then you have the issue that tests are usually performed under standardised conditions, which will not necessarily be mimicked in real life.

buglawton

Herzlos wrote: »

Which is why they are happily abandoning the UK as a European manufacturing base. It's pointless without the beat access to Europe.

Funny how the media and ministers are suddenly getting all exercised about British manufacturing. Oh and some desperate remain-justifiers.

Perhaps if there'd been some real action on the UK's industrial base beginning several decades ago, the industrial regions would not so overwhelmingly have voted leave.

phillw

buglawton wrote: »

Funny how the media and ministers are suddenly getting all exercised about British manufacturing. Oh and some desperate remain-justifiers.

Suddenly? It's the leavers that are trying to justify their suicide pact by saying that removing the red tape and the brilliant trade deals we'll negotiate will save them money.

People like James Dyson, oh wait no he's left the UK after throwing in some brexit grenades to make sure nobody from the UK can ever compete with him

Herzlos

buglawton wrote: »

Funny how the media and ministers are suddenly getting all exercised about British manufacturing. Oh and some desperate remain-justifiers.

Perhaps if there'd been some real action on the UK's industrial base beginning several decades ago, the industrial regions would not so overwhelmingly have voted leave.

Suddenly, as in the last 4 year's? We've been telling you Brexit will be bad for business since before the referendum was announced.

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

People like James Dyson, oh wait no he's left the UK after throwing in some brexit grenades to make sure nobody from the UK can ever compete with him

The future lies in Asia. The world order is undergoing change.

Backbiter

Herzlos wrote: »

Suddenly, as in the last 4 year's? We've been telling you Brexit will be bad for business since before the referendum was announced.

To be fair, rabid Brexiteers have come clean about that. Like Patrick Minford:

In 2012 he told a parliamentary committee that the U.K. leaving the European Union would result in the automotive sector suffering a “big transitional loss.” He claimed that there would be more “gainers than losers” because cheaper imported cars would flood into the U.K. He agreed this would all but destroy U.K. car manufacturing.

Minford is professor of economics at Cardiff Business School, a former advisor to Margaret Thatcher and supporter of the U.K. poll tax introduced in 1989 and which led to riots in 1990. He heads the pro-Brexit campaign group Economists for Free Trade (EFT), formerly known as Economists for Brexit. This group denies climate change, preferring neoliberal-style environmental deregulation, and has been pushing for a “no deal” Brexit scenario.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/01/28/brexit-to-destroy-u-k-car-manufacturing-lead-to-cheaper-imported-cars-increase-traffic-congestion/

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The future lies in Asia. The world order is undergoing change.

I agree and the EU will do a better deal with asia than we will. It's simple maths.

Your posts continue to prove remaining is the best option.

buglawton

Herzlos wrote: »

Suddenly, as in the last 4 year's? We've been telling you Brexit will be bad for business since before the referendum was announced.

Yes, suddenly, as in the last 4 years. And not a minute before that.

buglawton

phillw wrote: »

Suddenly? It's the leavers that are trying to justify their suicide pact by saying that removing the red tape and the brilliant trade deals we'll negotiate will save them money.

People like James Dyson, oh wait no he's left the UK after throwing in some brexit grenades to make sure nobody from the UK can ever compete with him

OK, maybe I was over optimistic thinking that anyone on this thread understands what underpins a strong manufacturing sector. It's not simply about a know-all government picking industrial winners. Dyson knows where his market is. E.g. the 30m pop. city of Shenzen moved all bus and taxi transport to full electric in 12 months. The UK might just manage it in 12 decades. But importantly, Dyson believes that it will be cost effective to employ Singaporians for his manufacturing. Because that countrys education and training is producing the right kind of people. Britain is still at the starting block in this regard. Not for want of good advice, mind.

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

I agree and the EU will do a better deal with asia than we will. It's simple maths.

That's a world outside of Brexit. Nothing to deal with trade deals with the EU. The markets are in Asia. That's where the affluence will be.