Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

SpiderLegs

Moby wrote: »

ERG:


Not happy campers are they......their pure brexit dream is unravelling and Jezza will help it unravel:rotfl:

It’s a brave man who bangs on and on about getting a general election and then props up the govt he wants rid of.
Especially doing a deal with the PM who won’t be around to implement anything.

God can you imagine if May tried to lock in a future deal for her successor to handle. The Tories would go into absolute meltdown. :rotfl:

I think this is all a bit of stage management. Corbyn can’t say no, so he pops along, it all falls apart, she brings her deal back as a confidence issue and finally we get to see if the erg and dup are prepared to let the govt fall.

It’s either WA goes through or long extension and a GE.

Fun stuff!

Moby

SpiderLegs wrote: »

It’s a brave man who bangs on and on about getting a general election and then props up the govt he wants rid of.
Especially doing a deal with the PM who won’t be around to implement anything.

God can you imagine if May tried to lock in a future deal for her successor to handle. The Tories would go into absolute meltdown. :rotfl:

I think this is all a bit of stage management. Corbyn can’t say no, so he pops along, it all falls apart, she brings her deal back as a confidence issue and finally we get to see if the erg and dup are prepared to let the govt fall.

It’s either WA goes through or long extension and a GE.

Fun stuff!

Yep draw up your chair and watch the fur fly!

Herzlos

Hopefully Corbyn will force May to hand over the reins and let him sort it out, instead of getting caught up in Mays blame deflecting games.

Thrugelmir

SpiderLegs wrote: »

It’s a brave man who bangs on and on about getting a general election and then props up the govt he wants rid of.

Corbyn has little choice but to play ball. Hardly a ringing endorsement for him as a potential PM in the polls currently. Could do with some good PR.

Nor can Labour sit on the fence and agree to something, providing that there's an add on of their choosing. If the EU dimisses Labour's proposals i.e. no further negotiation. Then Labour runs out of road as well. The options continue to fall away one by one.

Herzlos

The EU seem more receptive to Corbyn than May, though. So he might actually get on better with them.


I'd choose not to deal with May too, if I had any say in it.

BobQ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Corbyn has little choice but to play ball. Hardly a ringing endorsement for him as a potential PM in the polls currently. Could do with some good PR.

Nor can Labour sit on the fence and agree to something, providing that there's an add on of their choosing. If the EU dimisses Labour's proposals i.e. no further negotiation. Then Labour runs out of road as well. The options continue to fall away one by one.

Agree he has to play ball, but if she is just saying she wants a meeting and then refuses to change her red lines, he can simply tell people that is the case.

If she means she will flex her position then something based on the more popular (ie narrowly defeated) indicative votes, he can spin that as genuine influence.

The problem I see is that neither the EU or most of Parliament trust her.

AG47

Thrugelmir wrote: »

If the EU dimisses Labour's proposals i.e. no further negotiation. Then Labour runs out of road as well. The options continue to fall away one by one.

This is what the EU want. They want all options to fall away one by one, and they won't agree another extension.

Default no deal brexit come April 12.

They want chaos for the uk leaving the EU, otherwise every other member will want to leave.

It's going to be very bad for the uk for the fore sable future. Huge house price crash, a flood of repossessions, huge inflation and less disposable income.

And on top of everything..........Brits are going to have to start doing all, the hard jobs that they used to pay min wage to foreigners, as all the foriegners are going to go home. There is no point earring pounds sterling and sending it home as the pound is going to fall a long way from now on for the foreseeable future.

AG47

Yes It's going to be no deal come April 12

The only questions are what lead to such a disaster and lots of pointing the finger and blaming each other

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

AG47 wrote: »

It's going to be no deal come April 12

Meanwhile, back in reality....

There is no majority in Cabinet, in the Commons, or in the Country for a No Deal Brexit.

It's just not going to happen.

The choice is now between a sensible, compromise, middle ground Brexit, which is the only type of Brexit that can command a majority in Parliament, or no Brexit at all which is the likely outcome if it goes back to the people for a confirmatory vote.

AG47

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Meanwhile, back in reality....

There is no majority in Cabinet, in the Commons, or in the Country for a No Deal Brexit.

It's just not going to happen.

The choice is now between a sensible, compromise, middle ground Brexit, which is the only type of Brexit that can command a majority in Parliament, or no Brexit at all which is the likely outcome if it goes back to the people for a confirmatory vote.

Meanwhile taking off rose tinted specs, back in the world of reality, the more favourable outcomes seem les likely by the day.

Sorry perma prob bulls, but property is looking to continue to fall and you will continue to be wrong if you dogmatically stick to your perma prob bull fanatics