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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • smipsy
    smipsy Posts: 219 Forumite
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    movilogo wrote: »
    This proves we are right to leave the evil EU.


    If Remainers in parliament refrained from sabotaging Brexit from the start, this situation would not have risen. EU knows half of parliament is pro-EU - so they are leveraging it on their advantage.

    first it was the fault of EU, then it was Cameron, then the parliament, then May, now back to EU.

    it's all fine and dandy to run in circles, but those whose fault it really is are outside the circle laughing at the ones stuck in it, and they mean neither you or me any good. but keep on running if it pleases you, you might end up noticing that after every lap the circle is getting smaller.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,935 Forumite
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    There are going to be a lot less renters after FOM winds down IMO.
    Only if there are less jobs.
  • Takedap
    Takedap Posts: 808 Forumite
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    There are going to be a lot less renters after FOM winds down IMO.


    Oh Dear. Another one who's going to be so disappointed when they find out that stopping FOM doesn't reduce immigration.
  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,182 Forumite
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    This is utter chaos. Expect some headline manufacturers to announce they are leaving the UK next week.
  • wunferall
    wunferall Posts: 845 Forumite
    smipsy wrote: »
    they'll have to sell to pay for health care anyway, as NHS is being dismantled regardless of Brexit

    Evidence please?
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,289 Forumite
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    FPTP is not democracy. Millions of votes often make no difference to the outcome and many are left unrepresented. I am one who doesn't live in a marginal constituency. No-one stands outside my polling station on election day to ask me how I voted...

    Referenda often become the only way those disenfranchised by FPTP can feel their vote has any value.

    Hardly surprising when what the ruling class suggest they prefer is roundly rejected at a referendum.

    It's just a shame it can't be viewed that way and it suddenly becomes "the will of the people," rather than what it really is, voters finding they actually have a voice they can raise, regardless of the subject.

    650,000 not feeling !!!!ed off at their own Governments' long-term indifference toward them and their problems and there is no mis-directed protest vote to leave the EU.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • wunferall
    wunferall Posts: 845 Forumite
    Arklight wrote: »
    It's come to something that Britain's "taking back control" has come to the British Prime Minister anxiously standing outside an EU meeting she's excluded from, waiting for the EU to decide what will happen to her country.

    Great job Brexiteers, great job.

    I thought voting for UKIP and starting a campaign for some 1930s comedy Etonian Richie Rich to become Tory leader was the worst you could do, but you've excelled yourself now.

    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

    Where did any of us vote for Treason May?
    As some posters have been very quick to point out in the past, we don't vote for ministers or a PM in this country.
    We vote for MP's.
    Look on the voting slip at the next election.
    ;)


    All this kerfuffle about Brexit seems to come from some very selfish, avaricious people IMHO.
    Why selfish?
    Well because they want to ignore what people want.
    They want to ignore the future happiness of these people.
    They want to deny these people the opportunity to prosper.
    Avaricious because they very obviously do not want to risk what they already have in any way, shape or form; obviously not one of them has ever gambled in any manner whatsoever.
    :D
  • wunferall
    wunferall Posts: 845 Forumite
    The EU thinks it's discouraged other member countries from leaving.
    Possibly, but if so it's given them a bigger problem.
    Shame.
    From "The EU’s enemy within: Eurosceptic Remainers" in the FT:
    Remain-Eurosceptic countries want much the same thing as Brexiters, writes Dutch columnist Caroline de Gruyter: keeping the EU rules they like (mostly those regulating the single market) and ditching ones they don’t. But Remain Eurosceptics have worked out that they maximise their sovereignty by staying in, and “keeping their fingers on the buttons”. De Gruyter explains: “You don’t threaten to leave, you refuse to leave.”
    https://www.ft.com/content/ae3ebc46-4a99-11e9-bbc9-6917dce3dc62
  • BikingBud
    BikingBud Posts: 2,558 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »

    Not just half the MPs are pro-EU, nearly half the electorate favored the EU in the Referendum. The fact is that with such a narrow margin in the referendum, Brexit was possible with some compromises.

    So:
    • Still more than half the electorate voted to leave!
    • Still a majority no matter how narrow!
    • Still approval by Parliament of Article 50!
    • Still a significant difference between what all parties agreed to deliver and the petty squabbling that is occurring now!
    • Still a betrayal by our elected leaders to deliver what the electorate voted for!
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    Cable alleged yesterday that when challenged that a no-deal Brexit would make people poorer she said that's what people want. Delusional does not cover it.

    To become richer individually and as a nation. We need to work harder and more productively. We could remain. Doesn't mean that big business will though. Once upon a time Cornwall had a prosperous mining and textile industry. With it any number of other manufacturing industries. Events elsewhere brought about a complete demise. We are probably at a similar watershed. With a new global industrial revolution. This time the UK as a whole will be a mere bystander.
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