House training question...

happymoneysaver79

supermezzo wrote: »

Therefore, you're out of his sight....he possibly hasn't made the link that you are still in the house.
Do you reward him for going in the correct place? If not, how does he associate going outside to the loo as a good thing to do?
And I, and I'm sure many others on here will agree with me, do have a conversation with my dog throughout the day - He is talking to you, even if you're not sure how to listen.

Ok...................................................

harveybobbles

tankgirl1 wrote: »

how to house train a pup!?

Rub its nose in it and firmly say "No..." and take them to where they are meant to toilet.

It worked with our Shih-tzu from day one!

and make a big fuss and give treats when they get it right! :j

WeirdoMagnet

harveybobbles wrote: »

Rub its nose in it and firmly say "No..." and take them to where they are meant to toilet.

It worked with our Shih-tzu from day one!

:doh: You are joking? :mad: That is such an outdated and cruel method of house training I can't believe it is still suggested. The only thing it is going to achieve is a whole lot more mess - where you've pushed it into the carpet, and where the dog tries to remove it from it's nose, and a dog who won't go in front of it's owners. There is no-way that the dog is going to associate the 'punishment' with the fact that it has gone in what is the 'wrong' place.

I think you'll find that it was the treats and praise that worked.

harveybobbles

Georgina wrote: »

:doh: You are joking? :mad: That is such an outdated and cruel method of house training I can't believe it is still suggested. The only thing it is going to achieve is a whole lot more mess - where you've pushed it into the carpet, and where the dog tries to remove it from it's nose, and a dog who won't go in front of it's owners. There is no-way that the dog is going to associate the 'punishment' with the fact that it has gone in what is the 'wrong' place.

I think you'll find that it was the treats and praise that worked.

You take the dog to the dirt, let him see you pick it up, then rub his nose where the muck was, saying "no..." firmly is what i meant!! lol

I didn't mean rub his nose in the mess lol. Cos that'd be wrong lol.

WeirdoMagnet

harveybobbles wrote: »

You take the dog to the dirt, let him see you pick it up, then rub his nose where the muck was, saying "no..." firmly is what i meant!! lol

I didn't mean rub his nose in the mess lol. Cos that'd be wrong lol.

If a dog does have an accident inside, it is much better to pop the dog into another room, so he/she can’t see you clear it up, and can’t pick up on any anger. When first embarking on house training, taking the dog out every half hour to an hour (or more frequently if necessary) and rewarding the dog immediately when he does it outside will promote repeat behaviour. Once your dog has mastered going outside, you can then extend the time between loo breaks. There's some excellent advice on Karen Pryor's Clicker Training Website.

Punishing the dog so long after the event will only have a detrimental effect on it's behaviour - it may try to go to the toilet when you are not watching or are away from home, rather than 'on command', which is much more convenient!

harveybobbles

We always went outside at around 11pm ish for a nite time wee. (with the dog, obviously, cos that'd be silly otherwise...)
We'd wait 1, 2 or 10 minutes for him to wee before we'd all go to bed.
He picked up toilet training fully by 14 weeks old.

Tho there are times if we have been out for a while and we get back to a turd by the back door, we let them off cos we have been out.
Then when we say "who's done that..." both dogs look away, so we never know who was to blame lol.

I found house training to be a lot easier than I thought.

WeirdoMagnet

harveybobbles wrote: »

...He picked up toilet training fully by 14 weeks old.

Tho there are times if we have been out for a while and we get back to a turd by the back door, we let them off cos we have been out.
Then when we say "who's done that..." both dogs look away, so we never know who was to blame lol.

But if you are coming home to accidents, then your dog obviously hasn't "picked up toilet training fully"! :rolleyes:

Tortieshell

Georgina wrote: »

But if you are coming home to accidents, then your dog obviously hasn't "picked up toilet training fully"! :rolleyes:

How true .... the dog could of opened the back door by itself or better still used the bathroom! :rolleyes:

WeirdoMagnet

Tortieshell wrote: »

How true .... the dog could of opened the back door by itself or better still used the bathroom! :rolleyes:

I appreciate that if left for long enough, any dog (or animal, or human for that matter!) will do what it has to do, but most dogs are happy to be left for up to four hours, and some even all day whilst their owners are at work. If harveybubbles dogs are being left for a short period of time and are having accidents, then they're not fully house trained, and if they're being left for a longer period of time which means they have no option but to go inside, then they've either not been trained (by gradually extending the time between toilet breaks) to wait that length of time, or they are being left too long.

I see you have cats Tortieshell - how do you house train them?

Tortieshell

Georgina wrote: »

I see you have cats Tortieshell - how do you house train them?

Cats are the easiest pets to house train, its instinct for them to want to bury their poop not eat it! They are also very clean animals, I've had dogs in the past and never been able to train them 100% I prefer the company of kitties now!