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  • Kimberley
    Kimberley Posts: 14,871 Forumite
    Raksha wrote: »
    Actually, in my experience, house training does often go out of the window when a pup is due to start their first season.

    As a foster carer i have never come across that before and even with my families dogs it has never happened. Thats something new to me :eek:

    Even the dog forum i go on i've never seen anyone mention this before.
  • candygirl
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    Raksha wrote: »
    Actually, in my experience, house training does often go out of the window when a pup is due to start their first season.
    Funnily enough my !!!!! was like that too before her first one.Still get her vet checked though:p
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  • I have had 2 dogs in the past and they both started off housetrained then they just started going anywhere (inside the house).

    It is something I could never work out with dogs, I know alot of people whose dogs are trained but how they do it is beyond me!

    I also know of many dogs who arent fully housetrained, Im more of a cat lover now they are naturally clean and prefer to bury their doings rather than go on the floor.
  • Hiya,

    We've got a 7 month old lab and have found out that training, particularly toilet training goes out of the window during adolesence, which is probably where your pup is now, but it does come back - apparently! Our pup is a boy so not sure what happens with girlies re first seasons but I have heard they can be a bit of a nightmare. Hope things improve soon, nothing worse than waking up to the whole house smelling of poo!

    claire x x
    Full time working mum to 2 boys
    DH Stay at home dad :)
  • dawnylou
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    Thanks all.
    Strangely enough she IS coming into season (there was a drip on the floor this morn and she is licking herself!)
    However we took her for a late walk again last night, detolled the floor again so there should be no scent at all, AND moved her bed.
    This morning no mess! Took her out and did wee and poo straight away! (her not me!)
    So made huge fuss over her and gave her some treats :)

    Hopefully just a slip up!
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  • candygirl
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    dawnylou wrote: »
    Thanks all.
    Strangely enough she IS coming into season (there was a drip on the floor this morn and she is licking herself!)
    However we took her for a late walk again last night, detolled the floor again so there should be no scent at all, AND moved her bed.
    This morning no mess! Took her out and did wee and poo straight away! (her not me!)
    So made huge fuss over her and gave her some treats :)

    Hopefully just a slip up!
    See i knew it;) my vet told me when it happened to Candy that sometimes they get pains like period pains, and this can distress them and make them forget their TT.Hope she's ok now and keep her away from all the norty boys;) ;)
    "You can't stop the waves, but you can learn to surf"

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  • dawnylou
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    Certainly trying to keep her away from the naughty boys seeing as we bought her a boyfriend! lol
    Picking her lil toyboy up next week! :D
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  • Maybe getting her a little friend will help her, she may be suffering from seperation anxiety, my westie was a rescue and desperatly follows me around all the time which I am trying to break with training, when I got him he was not house trained and we spent several months trying to get him house trained - we found that puppy pads worked well for us, however even though he had a dog flap fitted to the kitchen door, the area in which he slept/ was kept when we were out, he would pee an poo all over the kitchen floor. He did this every time we went out/went to bed an this continued for almost a year. In the end we have allowed him to sleep in our bedroom at night (the cheeky bu**er sometimes slips into the bed too) so we don't have the night time problem anymore. I have got a dog crate but I haven't decided if I like it yet. I tend to let the dog out/walk him just before I go out and remove his drinking bowl and food, unless I am out for a long period of time or it is a hot day and this usually works fine. I also try and break the usual pattern that I display just before I go out so he doesn't think that i'm going out, sometimes it works to distract him with a chew and I try to leave on some background sound like the radio (not environmentally friendly I know).I am certain that he does this to show me that he is displeased that I have left him and as soon as I come in he shoots out of the dog flap before I can tell him off. I hope that you resolve your problem more quickly than I have because it is frustrating, hving said that I wouldn't swap him for anything in the world.
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  • dawnylou
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    Well I actually broke the habit by following a couple of suggestions mentioned earlier. But thanks :)

    AND she does now have a little boyfriend to keep her complany too :)
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  • I am certain that he does this to show me that he is displeased that I have left him and as soon as I come in he shoots out of the dog flap before I can tell him off. I hope that you resolve your problem more quickly than I have because it is frustrating, hving said that I wouldn't swap him for anything in the world.

    Hi happymoneysaver,

    Please don't think that your dog does this through spite or because he's displeased with you leaving. Dogs don't think like that - it really is because he is anxious that he has been left.

    When toilet training, there is no benefit in 'telling the dog off' unless it is at the precise moment the dog goes. Reprimanding him when you return home will only make him more anxious - he'll know your cross about something, but will not associate it with the accident/s he's had. In fact, it's likely that being told off when you return (if I have understood your post correctly) will only increase his anxiety and the accidents. You leave the house, and he doesn't like being left, so feels anxious and when you do come back, you're always cross about something, but he doesn't know what, making him more anxious.It's much better to just say hello to the dog, and clear up the mess without any fuss, even popping the dog outside while you do so (so he can't pick up on your feelings).

    It's a good idea to alter your routine (when leaving the house) though, and also to leave the radio/tv on. You could also leave by a different door if it is logistically possible. You could also try a DAP (Dog Appeasing Pheromone) Diffuser, and/or activity toys (like Kongs, Treat Balls etc).

    You might be able to find some advice on the forums on DogPages. There are many people on there who are experienced (and often qualified) dog trainers, who train using dog friendly methods. :)

    Georgie
    "No matter how little money and how few possesions you own, having a dog makes you rich." - Louis Sabin
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