Is a small indent on the over considered excessive to fair wear and tear?

lookstraightahead

Op just report it to the deposit scheme and let them decide. Or all this nonsense will make you ill. Of course s tenant cannot go round every single thing with a fine tooth comb to this extent. I had this over a stain on a curtain once and lost £400 and I knew I didn't do it. I'm an honest person and had I known them what I know now I would have put it into someone else's hands and then at least I would have known it to be fair. Also paid £100 for a new toilet seat because the one we replaced it with was not straight.

lookstraightahead

00ec25 wrote: »

if you park in a car park and come back to find the person next to you has opened their door and left a dent in your car would you say that was damage or "fair" wear and tear because that is what people do when in car parks - they damage other people's property without repercussion?

If I let someone else use my car for a fee and they dented it would be a more accurate comparison.

davidmcn

lookstraightahead wrote: »

If I let someone else use my car for a fee and they dented it would be a more accurate comparison.

And if they had been using the car for several years and the dent made no material difference to the then value of the car.

anselld

sam.ssrs wrote: »

And my question, based on the above is, if the dent is that small, can it be considered a fair wear and tear?

It doesn't matter how many times you ask the question, a dent is not wear and tear, it is damage.

Having said that, the L cannot claim new-for-old. If the oven cannot be repaired then the age and condition of the oven need to be taken into account in calculating the value of a like-for-like replacement of similar age and condition.

lookstraightahead

davidmcn wrote: »

And if they had been using the car for several years and the dent made no material difference to the then value of the car.

Exactly. And also if I as the car owner had no proof of whether the dent was there before or not

G_M

sam.ssrs wrote: »

And my question, based on the above is, if the dent is that small, can it be considered a fair wear and tear?

How many times does this need answering? Have you read the replies above?

A dent is damage. It is not fair wear and tear.
A chip is either damage, or discarded food (which should have been cleaned away). Either way it is not fair wear and tear.

they don't have pictures from the check-in report. Just a statement saying the oven was in good condition.

If it was described as in good condition, with no mention of either a chip or a dent, then the clear assumption is that there was no dent or chip when you moved in.

The photo proves (apparantly) that there was a chip and/or dent when you moved out.

parkrunner

sam.ssrs wrote: »

No, I am not trying to shrug off reponsibility. The point I am making is, what looks like a simp[le indent from the photograph is recorded as a chip by the inventory clerk. So assuming I am right and it is just an indent, is it fair wear and tear is the question.

Show us the photo and how old is the appliance?

lookstraightahead

To me, 'good' condition is subjective but it does suggest it's not 'excellent' condition.

[Deleted User]

I think a lot of this is a bit OTT. I suspect we are talking a minor dent that does not affect the workings of the oven. If it is a major dent then obviously the situation is different. Someone could be trying it on (LL side of things). Just claim the full deposit back through whoever is protecting it, that the dent wasn't spotted prior to you leaving and you don't know when this dent occurred.

00ec25

davidmcn wrote: »

And if they had been using the car for several years and the dent made no material difference to the then value of the car.

for someone working in the legal profession you have a strange take on damage to someone else's property