35 hour a week work search is becoming difficult. How to not get sanctioned?

SingleSue

Comms69 wrote: »

What a load of nonsense. If you're spending anything less than an hour on an application, you aren't going to get the job.

Weirdly, the one job where I spent much less than an hour on applying for was the one that was successful.

Granted, they remembered me from 30 years ago when I last worked for them but it was certainly minimal effort compared to others I applied to as it consisted of a reply to a Facebook post and dropping an up to date CV in (just dropped my stock CV in as no tailoring really needed). I got the job just from the details on my CV and of course my record with them from 30 years ago.

However, I do agree with you, my experience was certainly not the norm in job hunting.

Re courses, I did umpteen courses during my time as a carer for a family member, unfortunately it was not enough to outweigh the amount of time showing as a break or gap on my CV to the vast majority of companies I applied to (being disabled didn't help either).

I can't speak of what it is like with JSA or UC, I went from caring duties to working in less than a week without attempting to claim either. However, I had spent time applying for jobs in the run up to my caring duties easing and then stopping with no success.

donnajunkie

Rainbowgirl84 wrote: »

Because most hard working people rightly have a problem with people who deliberately abuse the welfare system. I don't expect you to understand that.

When I was hiring staff you could spot the applicants who were genuine and those who were not very easily.

How's job hunting going for yourself?

But as i have explained its not so straight forward. Secondly sanctions are overly harsh anyway.
I am trying to point out the harshness of the mindset. Most who get bad applications would just bin them and not think right i will get you for wasting my time and i will actively do what i can to make you suffer.

donnajunkie

Samsung_Note2 wrote: »

Sorry but no one is going to relocate for a job paying £7.83 an hour working in security...when they are not Licensed.

If it was a well paid salaried job with a nation wide company then yes id totally agree with you.

Im trying to offer genuine people who want work the opportunity to get back into (ok money is poor but alas im just the manager,Boss sets the pay rate) work and hopefully get some solid experience and a better looking CV.

Should have said..i always make a point of offering interviews to people 100 miles away and ask them how they intended to travel the 100 miles or what ever it is,however you say they will get found out in the end,how so if no one bothers to report them.

Many here would expect people to move for that job.
They will get found out eventually because the level of stupidity will mean they make one too many stupid mistakes.

Samsung_Note2

donnajunkie wrote: »

Many here would expect people to move for that job.
They will get found out eventually because the level of stupidity will mean they make one too many stupid mistakes.

Move for a a job that pays £7.83...oh please dont talk utter clap trap.:rotfl:

buglawton

If the Jobcenter had to refund job interview travel expenses the rules would instantly be changed so that people were only expected to apply for jobs a plausible distance away, taking into account their situation.

Another curiousity is that if you are an unemployed homeowner you'd need to pay a lot of cash to the government in the form of stamp duty if you wanted to swap your home for another one within commuting distance of the new job location.

bradqwer

Anyone expecting someone to move over 50 miles for a job that's below the minimum wage is deluded the rules state that a minimum of 1.5 hours of travel is expected in relation to travel to work.

When I was on universal credit I did apply for jobs outside that area but I was willing to relocate if need be.

As for the 35 hours a week my days were taken up going on reed, shortlisting a load of jobs, Id go thorough each application trying to find out who the actual employer was (if Agency) and I would do research into the employer Id make it last a hour on each app I was super interested in looking on the website into there history and background etc, the skills required and stuff and then id hit the apply button.

There is no way they can pull you for this, you are doing a smart thing by looking into the history and background of a perspective employer as this is what they would expect you to do and this can be classed as actions looking for work and taken into account on the 5 hours a day.

Sometimes the person seeing me says why only 5 jobs on XYZ day I'd explain and they would be fine, some would recommend a sanction I would appeal with what I have said and they would decide that I was not able to be sanctioned.

Don't take the **** just try your best

donnajunkie

Samsung_Note2 wrote: »

Move for a a job that pays £7.83...oh please dont talk utter clap trap.:rotfl:

I promise you theres people in the forum that think it.

donnajunkie

buglawton wrote: »

If the Jobcenter had to refund job interview travel expenses the rules would instantly be changed so that people were only expected to apply for jobs a plausible distance away, taking into account their situation.

Another curiousity is that if you are an unemployed homeowner you'd need to pay a lot of cash to the government in the form of stamp duty if you wanted to swap your home for another one within commuting distance of the new job location.

I think the jobcentre requires upto 90 minutes away. They haven't resorted to forcing people to move away yet.