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Quick Light Wiring Question

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I've bought a light that had 6 bulb holders.

Coming out of each bulb holder is a brown and blue wire.

Do I connect all the brown wires into one side of a choc block, then connect the other side to the brown wire from the ceiling?

Or should I connect all the brown wires together, then to a choc block?

And I guess I do the same with the blue wires?
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  • Ectophile
    Ectophile Posts: 7,979 Forumite
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    How were you planning on connecting all the brown wires together?


    If all you have poking out of the ceiling is one brown and one blue, then it's reasonably simple - the brown connects to all the browns, and the blue to all the blues.


    Most of the time, it's more complicated, with multiple wires poking out of the ceiling. In that case, you need to identify the wires, and connect only the right ones together.



    If it's a metal fitting, then there should be an earth wire as well.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • anotheruser
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    I guess like this :

    IMG-20181207-092633.jpg

    Then connect the blue ones together in one side of a block and the same with the brown. There is an earth but that can just connect through the choc block itself.
  • Rodders53
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    That is a dreadful luminaire.
    CE marking is probably not kosher.

    There should be a proper earth terminal, suitably marked on that metalwork... It needs one fitting before installing!!!

    Usually those brown and blue wires (plus a green/yellow earth) would be terminated in a 3-way terminal block labelled L, N & E for you to connect to.
  • tacpot12
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    Definitely a suspect fitting, due to the lack of an earth and no proper connection point. Your home insurance will be invalidated if you fit an item with a fake certificate of conformity.
    The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.
  • phill99
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    Rodders53 wrote: »

    There should be a proper earth terminal, suitably marked on that metalwork... It needs one fitting before installing!!!


    Not if its double insulated which many light fittings are now.
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  • tacpot12
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    phill99 wrote: »
    Not if its double insulated which many light fittings are now.

    This light fitting clearly isn't double insulated. If it were 'double insulated' the insulated wires would be behind a second layer of insulating material, and it would have the double insulated symbol near the CE mark.
    The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.
  • coffeehound
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    What kind of manufacturer expects the consumer to complete the mains wiring? Dodgy as hell. Return and report!
  • tonyh66
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    Thats shocking literally :) Ali express special?
  • Risteard
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    tacpot12 wrote: »
    This light fitting clearly isn't double insulated. If it were 'double insulated' the insulated wires would be behind a second layer of insulating material, and it would have the double insulated symbol near the CE mark.

    The protective measure isn't simply double insulation. It is double and reinforced insulation.

    It should also be remembered that air is an insulating material.

    As you suggest it should however be marked to show that it is a Class II item.
  • Mutton_Geoff
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    Looks very dodgy. Without an earth, when you cram the choc block back into the top and fix it back to the ceiling, a tiniest whisker of live conductor touching the metal will liven up the whole fitting.


    The conductors down to the lamps should be double insulated as others have said. And no earth unless that was a solder tag on the centre threaded fixing that is not there in the photo. In any case, the black anodising needs to be scraped off to make a good earth connection to the fitting.


    Or buy a proper one.
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