Britania parking and BW Legal

BT1997242

beamerguy wrote: »

The pictures will be as a driver sees them entering the car park

If the legal fee is not mentioned, would that give me grounds to avoid the entire fine or simply the £60 legal fee?

beamerguy

BT1997242 wrote: »

If the legal fee is not mentioned, would that give me grounds to avoid the entire fine or simply the £60 legal fee?

No, BWLegal are an aggressive bunch but not clever

It can be thrown out of court if the judge thinks they are extorting money from you .......

BWLEGAL ADD ON A FAKE £60 ?
In addition to the 'parking charge', the Claimant's legal representatives, BWLegal, have artificially inflated the value of the Claim by adding costs of £60 which has not actually been incurred by the Claimant, and which are artificially invented figures in an attempt to circumvent the Small Claims costs rules using double recovery. >>>> thanks to bargepole

BT1997242

beamerguy wrote: »

No, BWLegal are an aggressive bunch but not clever

It can be thrown out of court if the judge thinks they are extorting money from you .......

BWLEGAL ADD ON A FAKE £60 ?
In addition to the 'parking charge', the Claimant's legal representatives, BWLegal, have artificially inflated the value of the Claim by adding costs of £60 which has not actually been incurred by the Claimant, and which are artificially invented figures in an attempt to circumvent the Small Claims costs rules using double recovery. >>>> thanks to bargepole

Yes I did see this one and thought it may relate to myself. I'll take a look at those signs and see what they say and get back to this forum with details, how likely would you say this would be to go to court, obviously would like to avoid it if possible but what are the chances per say? Obviously no worries if you're not sure just after a second opinion.
Thanks again!

The_Deep

Why not query this with the SRA,

https://www.sra.org.uk/solicitors/handbook/code/content.page

as I am sure they do not condone this conduct. Also, complain to your MP

It is the will of Parliament that these scammers be put out of business. Hopefully that will take place in the near future. The Bill has passed through the HOC without hitch, and goes to the Lords soon. In the meantime involve your MP, the poor dears are buckling under the weight of complaints about these scammers. Read this one which I wrote earlier

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers.

Sir Greg Knight's Private Members Bill to curb the excesses, and perhaps close down, some of these companies passed its Third Reading in late November, and, with a fair wind, will become Law next year.

All three readings are available to watch on the internet, (some 6-7 hours), and published in Hansard. MPs have an extremely low opinion of the industry. Many are complaining that they are becoming overwhelmed by complaints from members of the public. Add to their burden, complain in the most robust terms about the scammers.

Umkomaas

If the parking event took place in daylight, illumination at night is a non-issue, don't be distracted by that.

You need to send the PPC a SAR to extract all the information they have on you, including a map indicating where your vehicle was parked and where signage is located within this car park. When you receive that, you check it against your mapping of the car park (including photos) and you expose any discrepancies if it gets in front of a Judge.

Here's a thread discussing SARs and the GDPR:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5849784

And a link to a SAR template rom the Legal Beagles website:

https://legalbeagles.info/library/guides_and_letters/court/subject-access-request/

BT1997242

Umkomaas wrote: »

If the parking event took place in daylight, illumination at night is a non-issue, don't be distracted by that.

You need to send the PPC a SAR to extract all the information they have on you, including a map indicating where your vehicle was parked and where signage is located within this car park. When you receive that, you check it against your mapping of the car park (including photos) and you expose any discrepancies if it gets in front of a Judge.

This is great, thank you, I will get this put together and sent out to them tomorrow. I will also go and take some photos and create a map of the car park. Thanks!

beamerguy

BT1997242 wrote: »

Yes I did see this one and thought it may relate to myself. I'll take a look at those signs and see what they say and get back to this forum with details, how likely would you say this would be to go to court, obviously would like to avoid it if possible but what are the chances per say? Obviously no worries if you're not sure just after a second opinion.
Thanks again!

Trouble is we cannot get into the dead brains of the scammers

Of late BWLegal have been chancing their luck with the £60 scam. We know they read this forum but the penny does not drop

The did the same using "Elliott v Loake and CPS v AJH Films"
and it took multiple whoopings in court for them to understand ..... even recently they tried on the same rubbish.

I see the government are looking into the Mental health act again,
somebody should seriously look into BWLegal

BT1997242

Should I send this to them immediately or following future correspondence? I know I was initially advised to ignore, what would you suggest?

BT1997242

Should I send immediately or wait for future correspondence?

BT1997242

Hi All,

quick update:

I have been to the car park and taken some photos of signage, I can confirm no mention of a £60 legal fee.

I will attach images of the signs but not sure how to upload a photo on here as I need them as a link I believe.







I have also drafted a letter for them regarding SAR and requesting a map of the car park.

What's the next thing I should look to do?

Thanks