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This virus isn't going to go away, we will have to live with it for years like flu and TB. It's here to stay. They will get a vaccine but it might be hit or miss like the flu jab. So every one of us will have to find a way to deal with it. No amount or arguing or bickering will make it go away..
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I saw something interesting on one of the long-Covid support groups where they made the point that in the 'old days' people were expected to convalesce after illness such as TB, glandular fever or a bad dose of flu. Our current culture (and economic system) doesn't really allow for that, but probably explains why post-viral and chronic fatigue are such an issue. Having said that, i'm not quite sure how the bills were paid when people were convalescing in sanatoriums, and I bet it wasn't much fun either. But it probably prevented ongoing problems.
In SE Asia, the majority of the population wear masks most of the time and seem to cope with them. I think once people get used to them it won't be such a big issue. It might even seem odd not to be wearing them when mixing with large numbers of strangers. Cyclists wear masks in cities to deal with air pollution, but not out in the countryside (I'd just like to point out how NOISY cyclists are when they're cycling along talking to each other about how lovely and peaceful the villages are ). I've seen posts from friends in cities showing that they're managing to run in masks quite happily, with the added bonus that it cuts down on the accidental intake of live protein!
Cultural changes are always difficult, and we've been going through a lot of them recently. I hope that a lot of the changes to work - allowing more remote/home working, providing more flexibility in terms of working hours, allowing people to be flexible across different roles - will stay as they should make life easier for a lot of people. Also some of the new tech that has been adopted, and the way that medical research has been accelerated and data sharing improved. The fact that most public transport, planes and public places are going to be a lot cleaner is also no bad thing!22 -
Floss said:3secondmemory said:Floss said:3secondmemory said:greenbee said:@3secondmemory - I've found the same. 21 weeks of Covid/post-covid and the pre-prepared stuff in the freezers is long gone. While getting deliveries is now easier, I still need to make sure I have stuff that's low effort when I have a relapse - it was the last one that started a month ago that made me realise I'd worked through my supplies (probably what kept me reasonably healthy until then!) and it was a real struggle to start eating properly again. So any day with energy will involve making something freezable for at least one of the day's meals and making as large a batch as I can. Today needs to involve tidying the freezers in readiness!
Check your hospital's website for assurance that they are safely open for business, and that you can continue to have your blood tests and appointments, and maybe contact the rheumatology department for their views on attending the hospital - if they are saying "make necessary trips to hospital & for blood tests" then you should assume that the department is working safely and attend.Personally I think an empty bus and a near empty shops are a safer bet for me right now but we each have to calculate our risk. I Don’t want to catch Covid but neither do I want to be a Covid collateral statistic
And if you were to visit your son would YOU & HE be wearing masks? I guess not, but if you did, then again the risk is lowered.
Please remember that if your Drs are saying you should be going to hospital appointments & for blood tests then that is for your particular health situation and they have made a clinical decision. To then avoid going may well affect you clinically, and you are denying yourself the treatment your clinical team believe that you need.I am 100% following medical advice – I’m not actually allowed to see my son – if I did it would be at 2 m and wearing masks but that would be against my rheumatologist advice at this moment. But it was like that for us on occasion anyway prior to Covid.My next blood test is in two weeks time and I have three options of getting there – I’m going to assess each one again nearer the time but I still think my safest option is on an near empty bus, followed by a shielded Uber and patient transport is the least safest.
If anything, my reluctance to go to hospital apart from the most necessary appointments, makes me more determined to manage this problem at home. 😃12 -
That's a good post greenbee, and something I've always thought about re rush to get better/back to work causing more health probs in the long run.And Chinese people here on holiday wear masks and have for years, even up here in the cleanest air in the country. So if they can do it without any hassle or drama, then so can we... surely?16
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MingVase said:That's a good post greenbee, and something I've always thought about re rush to get better/back to work causing more health probs in the long run.And Chinese people here on holiday wear masks and have for years, even up here in the cleanest air in the country. So if they can do it without any hassle or drama, then so can we... surely?16
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I think the idea of convalescence is one which is overdue for a rethink. I've often thought, as a person who developed ME from a go-round with EBV (aka glandular fever) as a young adult, that modern medicine is excellent with acute illness and catastrophic injury, but is plagued with the mindset that one is very ill or perfectly well. A person can hover between illness and health consistantly, or oscillate between being OK-ish or being too poorly to get out of bed, all within the same illness in a relatively short amount of time. Medicine, and workplaces and social welfare systems, seem to struggle with how biology refuses to confirm tidily to economic needs.
Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
John Ruskin
Veni, vidi, eradici
(I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
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I’ve long thought that the return of convalescent homes would resolve a lot of problems. Not only would people be able to make a full recovery, but ancillary services such as physio- and speech therapies could be available there, too, and advice & support services for patients and their families.
There would be no more need to insult people by describing them as “bed-blockers” when the system itself is imprisoning them in hospitals which no longer serve their needs, as they could receive the help they need to get back to coping at home.
Also needed to be revived are the Infectious Diseases Hospitals, which could be appropriately staffed and supplied with PPE, thus releasing the “mainstream” hospitals to get on with treating everyday heart attacks, strikes, cancers, etc., and not terrifying vulnerable patients into avoiding them.
Will the Powers that Be see sense? I’m not holding my breath, but am hoping.“Tomorrow is another day for decluttering.”Decluttering 2023 🏅🏅🏅🏅⭐️⭐️21 -
My local Infectious Diseases hospital got knocked down about 30 years ago and there are some very nice houses built there now.2021 Decluttering Awards: ⭐⭐🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇 2022 Decluttering Awards: 🥇
2023 Decluttering Awards: 🥇 🏅🏅🥇
2024 Decluttering Awards: 🥇13 -
Floss said:My local Infectious Diseases hospital got knocked down about 30 years ago and there are some very nice houses built there now.
(Maybe build some in the High Streets which are never going to be revived?)“Tomorrow is another day for decluttering.”Decluttering 2023 🏅🏅🏅🏅⭐️⭐️17 -
I did my training and worked in an Infectious Diseases hosp. Was fascinating.
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