The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;)

MoneySeeker1

jk0 said:

This guy is interesting: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd6F39mg7LPUkw1BfiJDibw/videos

Yep...duly got a book from him en route - having recently encountered him.

As a non-reader of Facebook - you won't have seen various comments on various groups over the weekend that look as if "they" (the censors) might be rowing back a bit on all the "cat and mouse game" of them removing perfectly ordinary/decent/commonsense videos put up on YouTube against the prevailing narrative (Lockdown and all that) and we put them back up again (on YouTube or anywhere else possible), followed by them censoring them again and we put them back up again and so it goes in a merry-go-round.

It looks a bit as if the Facebook "fact checkers" (aka censors) and the YouTube censors (whatever name they call them) might have had so many complaints that they're not being quite so bad. Fingers crossed.

I guess it's too much to hope the censorship will stop - but it was getting pretty bad at its height and one couldnt even mention things like the Natural N*ws (asterisk is an e) website or Bright*on (asterisk is an e) website in a private message to someone else on Facebook - as private messages were getting censored.

boultdj

That's the date FHT have mentioned as a possible start back date for us therapist's. With proper safe guards, but it could be altered.

euronorris

It is scary. The death number yesterday was up yesterday, compared to the same time last week. If today shows a similar rise compared to last week, then it is a fair indication that the infections are rising again.

Can't trust the new cases number at the moment, as they have finally opened up testing to all over 5, so I would expect numbers to go up purely based on the increase in testing. It is frustrating, all these changing goal posts. They have made it so difficult to extrapolate meaningful data/conclusions.

GreyQueen

Lyn, Covid 19 ain't ever going away. Any more than the flu goes away. The proportion of society which is not retired does not have the luxury of putting up the shutters indefinately. Governments need the revenues those businesses create in order to pay pensions, fund the NHS, pay furloughed employees, pay for everything. Lockdown cannot go on much longer or the whole economy sinks, taking us all down with it. Even the comfortably-off will not be spared the fallout.

Everyone I know who is s/e, including small shop-keepers, are deep in the s**t and burning through savings. Much more of this and they will be bankrupt. I know people with £700 rents on very mediocre houses and £300 monthly income. They can't hold out much longer. Even charities are folding as they cannot open their shops, run street collections etc.

All the world's governments know, but cannot tell Joe Public, is that they have to ease lockdown in stages and expose more and more of the populace to Covid-19. It has to be done in such a way that the small minority of persons who become severely ill do not overwhelm the acute care facilites available to treat them.

About 80% of us will only ever experience a very minor illness, in up to 50% of cases, so minor that we are asymptomatic. Herd immunity for this disease is reckoned to be approx 70%, so our safety relies on having lots and lots of recovered C-19 people around us, not hiding behind closed doors. Not that you can hide from a highly-infectious airborne aerosolised virus indefinately.

euronorris

With regards to excess carrier bags, I do this (except I fold mine in half once more before rolling). Saves tonnes of space, can still easily grab one, and once they can start accepting them back they will be easy to hand over and take up less space for them too. https://youtu.be/GkTtEwnNHJE

Suffolksue

GreyQueen, thank you for your common sense  

srn

Totally agree with Grey Queen, this virus is not going to go away, we have to learn to live with it and we have to get the economy going again.  The only way we will return to normality is to gain herd immunity either by immunity gained from acquiring the disease or by immunity gained from vaccination. We will not gain the former by the majority of the population staying at home, we may never gain the latter.

GreyQueen

Suffolksue said:

GreyQueen, thank you for your common sense  

Thanks hun. I am not anguine about my personal chances of even surviving an encounter with C-19 as I have a life-treatening metabolic disorder and have been told that ordinary flu could see me hospitalised and gravely ill. I also have elderly parents, one of whom has Parkinson's Disease, whose sufferers are reckoned to be especially vulnerable.

However, I am also a pragmatist. Large amounts of the economy haven't been shut down at all. Hospitals and social care providers are running, food distribution is running, fuel tankers are delivering fuel, utitlities are being provided. Once we have mass effective anti-body testing, it will be revealed that lots of us have had C-19 already. My parents and brother live together, and all were ill with a very suspiciously corona-like illness for a 5 week period from February into March. It would lift a huge weight of worry off my shoulders if they could be tested and come up negative.

euronorris

My antibody test kit arrived yesterday. I will do it tomorrow night and put it straight in the post. Not doing now, as the post box won't be collected until Tuesday, so don't want it sitting in a hot box for days on end.

If it shows I have had it, the anxiety levels in DH would drop dramatically. He is struggling quite a bit with his anxiety because of all this.

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Undoubtedly right GQ, luxury doesn't come into it though the shut in might be for the rest of our lives and that would be very difficult to deal with.  The rest of the population will likely in time be able to recover and get on with life as normal and good thing too but for a proportion of us it might not ever be possible.