Horizon Parking Fine on Private Land

KeithP

If you play the Horizon one 'by the book' then it is highly likely this will be cancelled in November.

Tabz123

Ok

Will paste the blue wordinh into the appeal box on horizon online and see how it goes....

Umkomaas

Cameras have been installed and the pictures of the alleged vehicle have been taken from a lamppost and are date stamped. I am assuming this was some sort of camera. Perhaps not an ANPR ?

It won't be an ANPR camera.

Can you upload a (redacted) copy of the photos they are using, please? Let's see what they're up to.

NEWBIES - HOW TO UPLOAD LINKS TO PHOTOS/SCANS TO MSE

To upload a photo/scan link, you first need to host it on a free photo hosting site (like Dropbox, Imurg or Tinypic), copy the URL, paste it here, but change the http to hxxp and we'll do the conversion. Newbies can't directly upload links to photos/scans until they've a few posts under their belt.

Coupon-mad

I couldn't see a change of address clearly pointed out in the appeal. If you are referencing a new address add it to the body of the template and ask that Horizon rectify their data for your address immediately.

Always appeal online or by email if that's offered.

Tabz123

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I couldn't see a change of address clearly pointed out in the appeal. If you are referencing a new address add it to the body of the template and ask that Horizon rectify their data for your address immediately.

Always appeal online or by email if that's offered.

I have decided to keep the address as is for now as I have still have access to that address...to make things easier and therefore my appeal will still remain as below. Today is the 26th day since notification:

Re PCN number:

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement. There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn.

Since your PCN is a vague template, I require all photos taken, a clear image of the signage and an explanation of the allegation (e.g. if you have identified a wrong VRN input at a machine, say so, and explain why your Data Protection Officer has not simply rectified it, rather than trying to punish a driver for a matter where there is nothing to deter).

I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner and to my MP, appraising all parties of the debate where Parliament agreed: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists...should not have to put up with this''. Firms of your ilk were unanimously condemned as operating an 'outrageous scam' (Hansard 2.2.18). The BPA & IPC were heavily criticised; hardly surprising for an industry where so-called AOS members admit to letting victims 'futilely go through the motions' of appeal and that 'we make it up most of the time' (BBC Watchdog).

Formal note:
Should you later pursue this charge by way of litigation, note that service of any legal documents by email is expressly disallowed and you are not entitled to assume that the data in this dispute/appeal remains the current address for service.
Yours faithfully,

Coupon-mad

OK get that in quick then, online or by email. Then read POPLA appeals and bear in mind not to imply who was driving, and that you will need to explain to POPLA about the real meaning of a DYL.

Tabz123

Umkomaas wrote: »

It won't be an ANPR camera.

Can you upload a (redacted) copy of the photos they are using, please? Let's see what they're up to.

NEWBIES - HOW TO UPLOAD LINKS TO PHOTOS/SCANS TO MSE

To upload a photo/scan link, you first need to host it on a free photo hosting site (like Dropbox, Imurg or Tinypic), copy the URL, paste it here, but change the http to hxxp and we'll do the conversion. Newbies can't directly upload links to photos/scans until they've a few posts under their belt.

hxxps://www.dropbox.com/s/n7d6o3frttkk6m4/Horizon%20alleged%20space.jpg?dl=0

hxxps://www.dropbox.com/s/pm3gsvya7vvh1r3/Horizon%20car%20pics.jpg?dl=0

One is a pic of the alleged space and the other of the alleged vehicle.

Please let me know if they have worked...

Coupon-mad

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7d6o3frttkk6m4/Horizon%20alleged%20space.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pm3gsvya7vvh1r3/Horizon%20car%20pics.jpg?dl=0

Terrible photos, do they look that bad on the actual PCN?! Can't even see the DYL or any signs, or even the car!

Tabz123

Coupon-mad wrote: »

OK get that in quick then, online or by email. Then read POPLA appeals and bear in mind not to imply who was driving, and that you will need to explain to POPLA about the real meaning of a DYL.

So do I await for Horizon to respond first before the POPLA appeal is submitted?

KeithP

Tabz123 wrote: »

So do I await for Horizon to respond first before the POPLA appeal is submitted?

Yes, you can't submit an appeal to PoPLA without a PoPLA code.

That PoPLA code will be supplied by Horizon if they reject your appeal.