Would like to put vinyl flooring in new flat.

whatuk65

Hi,
We've just bought a first floor flat and would like to change the carpets and cheap lino to vinyl flooring in some of the rooms. I've researched it a little and Karndean seems like a good option to replace it with, but I wondered if people could help me out with if it's allowed in our lease.

The lease says "to keep all passages and rooms inside the flat carpeted with underfelt in addition to linoluem or carpets..."

Does this mean we have to keep carpets and lino, or that Karndean would be allowed?

Thanks for any help!

M

hb2

It is common to have a clause stipulating carpets in flats in order to reduce noise nuisance. It seems to me that this is what you have - although I am no expert.

xylophone

The lease says "to keep all passages and rooms inside the flat

carpeted with underfelt in addition to linoluem of carpets..."[/QUOTE


What does phrase in bold mean?

I have never heard of underfelting linoleum.

I have marmoleum in shower and utility in my house - no underfelt just screeded underneath.

Acoustic versions are available I believe.

Presumably you would use acoustic version in bathroom/kitchen and use best soundproofing underlay under carpets in hall and other rooms?

Or are you required to put lino on all floors and then to cover with underlay and carpet in all non wet rooms?

Cakeguts

What has carpets on it now has to stay as carpets. It is to reduce the noise on the floor when you walk about.

whatuk65

Sorry, it says
"to keep all passages and rooms inside the flat carpeted with underfelt in addition to linoluem or carpets..."

So I was wondering if Karndean would be seen as the same as Linoleum, and if what the lease is saying is that you can use carpets AND lino. Cause obviously it says "all rooms inside the flat carpeted" then goes on to say "in addition to Linoleum or carpets".
Karndean also has an acoustic dampening layer, to reduce noise, so it may be suitable?
But seems like we have to stick to carpets, and lino?

Thanks

xylophone

Looking at the above, since I can't think of an underfelt for linoleum, you would use acoustic lino in wet rooms and carpet with underlay in others?

Or you might consider palio clic whichcan be laid on a (presumably sound deadening) underlay?

http://www.karndean.com/en-gb/commercial-flooring/tools-and-resources/resources/flooring-installation/palio-clic-installation-instructions

Relative has this in bathroom and dining room and has been pleased with it.

whatuk65

Yeah, that's the kinda thing I was thinking of, but was unsure if this would be allowed cause of the carpets bit in the lease. I'm not sure if this was around when the lease was written, so was unsure how strict it is.
But I was thinking, if they allow lino, then Karndean is comparable, and on top of that is supposed to be very good for sound proofing, or would the lease just see it as "not carpets" and we'd have to change it.

hb2

I think the problem is that you will be aboslutely fine with whatever floor you like - as long as no-one else complains about noise. If a complaint is made, no-one can predict whether the freeholder will want to enforce the exact letter of the clause, will know what 'Karndean' is etc.

whatuk65

Yeah, we own a share in the freehold, so it's unpredictable there too.

quantumlobster

whatuk65 wrote: »

The lease says "to keep all passages and rooms inside the flat carpeted with underfelt in addition to linoluem of carpets..."

There's your answer, OP. The rest is detail.

whatuk65

what is the linoleum part about then? surely that would mean the kitchen and bathroom would need to be carpeted?