Smart Meter Removal

937carrera

Undervalued wrote: »

Is there not in any case a legal right to have the communication with the meter disabled? Although exactly how you prove that has happened I'm less sure.....

You can ask that the meter be put in dumb mode, for now. IMHO it is almost certain that choice will be removed in the future. I'm going through a supplier change at the moment, so I'll know if it's gone SMETS1 dumb on Monday. If the in home device cannot connect with the meter then I would take that as proof it has gone dumb, unless someone knows better.

I'm aware of the RF radiation concerns, that's not my reason for wanting one removed. If the smart meter isn't there in the first place the undesired functionality cannot be activated.

k3lvc

937carrera wrote: »

If the smart meter isn't there in the first place the undesired functionality cannot be activated.

Out of interest then what 'undesirable functionality' is the issue ?

lewisa

Undervalued wrote: »

I'm not quite sure where it gets you?

It gets you a meter that cannot be remotely disconnected - either accidentally disconnected because of the innate stupidity of energy companies, or purposefully disconnected in a legitimately contented account query situation due to the self-righteousness and total disregard for consumers within energy companies.

owen_money

Mister_G wrote: »

This means that I can still get my cumulative meter read from the comfort of my living room.

I do occasionally check that the IHD reads the same as the meter itself, which it always does.

I now have a dumb meter after switching suppliers but never thought of using the IHD to get the meter readings. Thanks you've saved me time opening the meter box and having to write down the readings. Great tip

The_Big_Bamboo

I’ve downloaded an App from the dark-web that allows me to utilize my Smart Meters as a proxy internet broadband router;...it also gives me access to free phone calls (landline numbers/mobile numbers etc) via the ‘Smart meter’ national wireless network.

Superfast broadband and phone calls,... all for FREE!,...what’s not to love? :j :money:

937carrera

lewisa wrote: »

It gets you a meter that cannot be remotely disconnected - either accidentally disconnected because of the innate stupidity of energy companies, or purposefully disconnected in a legitimately contented account query situation due to the self-righteousness and total disregard for consumers within energy companies.

or disconnected through rogue actors, or usge patterns analysed by energy companies or others, facilitiation of either personal usage or demand based pricing due in a large part to failure to ensure sufficient baseload generating capacity in the grid and corresponding over-reliance on the weather for power generation. My concerns are not necessarily those of today.

937carrera

The_Big_Bamboo wrote: »

I’ve downloaded an App from the dark-web that allows me to utilize my Smart Meters as a proxy internet broadband router;...it also gives me access to free phone calls (landline numbers/mobile numbers etc) via the ‘Smart meter’ national wireless network.

Superfast broadband and phone calls,... all for FREE!,...what’s not to love? :j :money:

You're a tease

iammumtoone

If its that important to you not to have one, would it have been easier to find a house that didn't have them fitted? although at some point in the future will would probably end up with one anyway.



I don't have one and will be declining the option to have one fitted, however at some point in the future my meter will probably need changing/updating so I suspect then I will have no choice in the matter. By that method eventually all houses will have them whether the owners opted in or out.

Mister_G

937carrera wrote: »

You can ask that the meter be put in dumb mode, for now. IMHO it is almost certain that choice will be removed in the future. I'm going through a supplier change at the moment, so I'll know if it's gone SMETS1 dumb on Monday. If the in home device cannot connect with the meter then I would take that as proof it has gone dumb, unless someone knows better.

I'm aware of the RF radiation concerns, that's not my reason for wanting one removed. If the smart meter isn't there in the first place the undesired functionality cannot be activated.

When mine went dumb after leaving the initial supplier (Ovo), I can still see my consumption on a real time and cumulative basis. The only part of the IHD that doesn't work is the actual cost, as it isn't getting the unit rate anymore from the current supplier (Eversmart).

This is with the Secure Liberty 100. It may not apply to other makes of smart meter.

thorganby

Houbara wrote: »

I have a long standing hatred of this meter and have been ranting on here for years about just how bad they are for a large section of the population. They should have been outlawed by OFGEM
As a meter reader for 20 years I was shocked to see the Secure Liberty 100 meter in operation about 7 years ago in domestic properties
Ovo and Utilita were the first to employ the cheap Indian made meter designed for small businesses and not meant to be read by domestic users. They used it for their smart prepayment meters which went down very well .
It even has the cheek to have a Kvarh screen on it which is only ever any use to business users. In India it is used because the Kwh reading is not reliable because of all the outages.
. It is not an industry standard meter but that will not stop all the small suppliers, and now one of the big 6, choosing to install this meter purely on price, because it is a cheap meter to buy, less than £40.
I personally struggle to read the meter when its placed in very awkward positions, eg behind TVs/washing machines etc , even with a mirror. My usual method is to press button 9 and video all the screens with a torch lighting the screen up. The general public will find it impossible in some situations, but thats progress

Another very interesting read. Could you please explain to a total novice in this new fangled technology, how this smart meter can continue to register Kvarh but it cannot register Kwh reliably during power outages?