We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Parking in own space - Gladstoned

1810121314

Comments

  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 7 August 2019 at 7:34PM
    I would suggest that you would be at a serious disadvantage if the Claimant (or the Claimant's representative) turns up and you decide not to.

    If that were to happen, you would need a very good witness statement and strong evidence supporting it.
    You would also not be in a position to challenge anything the Claimant may say in court.
    And if you were to lose, then how would you challenge their excessive costs?

    As has already said, you need to give at least seven days notice of non-attendance. Upon seeing that, if I were the Claimant, I would make damn sure I attended.

    If you are thinking of not attending, think very carefully.

    Have a look at this short video:
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    edited 7 August 2019 at 7:41PM
    .......given the inconvenience of the court location - inconvenient for both parties, I would say.

    You could choose the venue couldn't you?
  • KeithP wrote: »
    I would suggest that you would be at a serious disadvantage if the Claimant (or the Claimant's representative) turns up and you decide not to.

    If that were to happen, you would need a very good witness statement and strong evidence supporting it.
    You would also not be in a position to challenge anything the Claimant may say in court.
    And if you were to lose, then how would you challenge their excessive costs?

    As has already said, you need to give at least seven days notice of non-attendance. Upon seeing that, if I were the Claimant, I would make damn sure I attended.

    If you are thinking of not attending, think very carefully.

    Have a look at this short video:


    No, we are definitely attending. However, in an almost identical case (pertaining to the same location, and same scammers), they - the scammers - didn't turn up but did submit papers: they lost. We now have a load of detail from the defendants in that case; it's really useful stuff and we'll be using some of it in our witness statement and submissions.
  • Quentin wrote: »
    You could choose the venue couldn't you?


    No. Northampton is forcing us to travel almost 70 miles into central London, as opposed to two miles to the local court - the court we requested. Their reason is a "large backlog of cases in the Thames Valley region".
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    thats only if you turn up, you could ask for it to be "heard on papers" if you wanted, meaning nobody would go, but if the other side turned up there is nobody on your side to refute any claims being made etc


    attendance is not mandatory, plus if the claimant wanted to do so they could hire a local gun to go for them, many do


    as for gladrags, they always ask for the special directions and heard on papers, have done for years, nothing to do with your case per se
  • Two further questions in connection with the Witness Statement: as part of the submission we're including a copy of the lease, but would the Court require the whole lease (20+ pages) or just copy of the relevant section (1 page). Does a copy of all submissions go to the solicitors, the scammers, or both? I thought just the solicitors, but I hear from elsewhere that it should go to the scammer.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 8 August 2019 at 11:15PM
    Take the whole lease with you on the day, but only need to include pertinent paragraphs with your Witness Statement.

    If the Claimant is represented by a solicitor, then you deal with the solicitor, not the Claimant. Your Claim Form gives an 'address for documents'.
  • KeithP wrote: »
    Take the whole lease with you on the day, but only need to include pertinent paragraphs with your Witness Statement.

    If the Claimant is represented by a solicitor, then you deal with the solicitor, not the Claimant.


    Excellent. Thanks.
  • Definitely the last question for today, and apologies for the continued requests: we're citing a recent case identical to ours, in the same block, and where the scammers lost. However, we don't have a copy of the judgement (I think it costs £50), so would that be held against us if we reference this case in the WS without providing a copy? I think we have sufficient detail of the judgement, just not the verbose document. Thanks.
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Two further questions in connection with the Witness Statement: as part of the submission we're including a copy of the lease, but would the Court require the whole lease (20+ pages) or just copy of the relevant section (1 page). Does a copy of all submissions go to the solicitors, the scammers, or both? I thought just the solicitors, but I hear from elsewhere that it should go to the scammer.

    You seem to think there is only one scammer here ... both are ?

    I hope Gladstones are reading this as your lease will probably scupper them in court.

    Best for them to discontinue as they do
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.