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DMP mutual support thread part 13 !!

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  • Hi

    I am approx 6 months into the process. I have some debts with dcas and some still with the original creditors and yet to default. When should I send CCA requests? 

    Thanks
    How old are your debts ?

    Re-constituted agreements are quite easy to produce, its mainly old accounts that have been sold on a few times where correct paperwork can`t be provided.

    Unless they are over 4 years old, I wouldn`t bother.
    The age of debts - is this when the account was opened or when the account started being used? 

  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,494 Ambassador
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    Hi

    I am approx 6 months into the process. I have some debts with dcas and some still with the original creditors and yet to default. When should I send CCA requests? 

    Thanks
    How old are your debts ?

    Re-constituted agreements are quite easy to produce, its mainly old accounts that have been sold on a few times where correct paperwork can`t be provided.

    Unless they are over 4 years old, I wouldn`t bother.
    The age of debts - is this when the account was opened or when the account started being used? 

    Date it was opened, creditors are obliged to keep internal records for a minimum of 6 years, some don`t keep them that long, and others keep them for longer, pot luck dependant on creditor.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Hi

    I am approx 6 months into the process. I have some debts with dcas and some still with the original creditors and yet to default. When should I send CCA requests? 

    Thanks
    How old are your debts ?

    Re-constituted agreements are quite easy to produce, its mainly old accounts that have been sold on a few times where correct paperwork can`t be provided.

    Unless they are over 4 years old, I wouldn`t bother.
    The age of debts - is this when the account was opened or when the account started being used? 

    Date it was opened, creditors are obliged to keep internal records for a minimum of 6 years, some don`t keep them that long, and others keep them for longer, pot luck dependant on creditor.
    Ok, thanks. Two accounts that have now defaulted and I have just set up £1 token payments for the moment are Tesco (now with Moorcroft) & Barclaycard (now with PRA) were opened in 2012 & 2013.
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,494 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    Hi

    I am approx 6 months into the process. I have some debts with dcas and some still with the original creditors and yet to default. When should I send CCA requests? 

    Thanks
    How old are your debts ?

    Re-constituted agreements are quite easy to produce, its mainly old accounts that have been sold on a few times where correct paperwork can`t be provided.

    Unless they are over 4 years old, I wouldn`t bother.
    The age of debts - is this when the account was opened or when the account started being used? 

    Date it was opened, creditors are obliged to keep internal records for a minimum of 6 years, some don`t keep them that long, and others keep them for longer, pot luck dependant on creditor.
    Ok, thanks. Two accounts that have now defaulted and I have just set up £1 token payments for the moment are Tesco (now with Moorcroft) & Barclaycard (now with PRA) were opened in 2012 & 2013.
    Ok, then in that case, to ascertain your position, I would send CCA requests, yes.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Wow I am so glad I have found this thread. I am a homeowner, a single Mum and I realised with the cost of living going up – I am literally borrowing money each month just to afford the basics and it shouldn’t be like that.

    So I am 16k in debt – I finally decided to get a grip on it all and apply for a DMP with Payplan. I have soo so so sooo many worries and just anxiety. They have sent letters to those I owe money too and they’ve told me to cancel my direct debits too (those relating to my debts) and make a new bank account too which I am in the process of doing, just got to send ID docs.

    My main worry is in 2026 my fix rate on my mortgage ends – to date I have never had any defaults, missed payments etc on my credit file for anything and the fact I’ve got to get my head around my credit rating will be a mess cos of this is worrying me immensely. My current lender accepts DMP if settled so my aim is to get it paid off by time my re mortgage, which is easily do-able.

    Has anyone got any experiences with fixed rate ending and getting a good mortgage deal either still in the DMP or paid off a few months before it ends.

     I think I will be a regular to this thread, the past pages I have read and you are all such a helpful, non-judgemental bunch xx

  • motivated
    motivated Posts: 3,044 Forumite
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    edited 4 June 2022 at 11:40AM
    So sorry to Highjack this thread but I'm interested in the CCA requests 

    long story short.  We have accounts that have been sold on and on.  2 particular accounts opened March and August 2016.  Both defaulted October 2017. 

    Started with Halifax. Then managed by Wescot.  Now saying Intrum. 
    2nd one saying Halifax HBOS new record and also saying Intrum.  
    These 2 accounts are both showing on my credit file under Halifax AND Intrum.   
    Therefore it looks like I owe millions 😂

    Just to add we have around 5 accounts that defaulted  2017.   Do we need to ask for defaults to be removed this year or do they naturally drop off?

    Not sure if they've been sold on or are being managed. 

    My question is should I CCA request or is it too cheeky?

    thanks


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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,494 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    motivated said:
    So sorry to Highjack this thread but I'm interested in the CCA requests 

    long story short.  We have accounts that have been sold on and on.  2 particular accounts opened March and August 2016.  Both defaulted October 2017. 

    Started with Halifax. Then managed by Wescot.  Now saying Intrum. 
    2nd one saying Halifax HBOS new record and also saying Intrum.  
    These 2 accounts are both showing on my credit file under Halifax AND Intrum.   
    Therefore it looks like I owe millions 😂

    Just to add we have around 5 accounts that defaulted  2017.   Do we need to ask for defaults to be removed this year or do they naturally drop off?

    Not sure if they've been sold on or are being managed. 

    My question is should I CCA request or is it too cheeky?

    thanks


    Halifax are one lender who keep`s records for at least 7 years, so although you have the right to ask for information pertaining to your accounts at any time, they should not have any trouble providing it.

    Intrum have bought your Halifax debts, the original entry should show the date of default and a zero balance, the Intrum entry should show the same default date and the outstanding balance.

    Your credit files will never show more than you owe.

    Defaults will automatically drop off your credit file after 6 years.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • motivated
    motivated Posts: 3,044 Forumite
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    Thank you Sourcrates.  

    I've just checked again and my file says Halifax 2 accounts and the balances. 
    Intrum are also showing 2 accounts with high balances. Albeit a little less than Halifax shows. 

    We also have 4 accounts with PRA
    opened March 2013 defaulted Oct 17 
    opened March 2013 defaulted March 17
    opened July 2015 defaulted Oct 17
    opened April 2012 defaulted March 17

    all 4 accounts originally BC and MBNA 

    is it worth CCA requests to PRA?



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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,494 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    motivated said:
    Thank you Sourcrates.  

    I've just checked again and my file says Halifax 2 accounts and the balances. 
    Intrum are also showing 2 accounts with high balances. Albeit a little less than Halifax shows. 

    We also have 4 accounts with PRA
    opened March 2013 defaulted Oct 17 
    opened March 2013 defaulted March 17
    opened July 2015 defaulted Oct 17
    opened April 2012 defaulted March 17

    all 4 accounts originally BC and MBNA 

    is it worth CCA requests to PRA?



     You can do, but remember a re-constituted version is perfectly acceptable, it shouldn`t be hard to get the required information.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • tinybull
    tinybull Posts: 12 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 10 Posts
    Hi, a quick question if I may.  I am now almost a year into starting my DMP, it took almost 6 months since cancelling direct debits and writing to the creditors for them to default my accounts.

    I have a issue with a HSBC loan. I initially send a Holding Letter to them in November 2020, and in Feb 2021 I sent a offer letter with no response. So I decided to wait until they default me. And I am still waiting. Every 3 months they send me a letter that I am behind with repayments. duh. And if I don't contact them it may result in receiving a default notice (yes please).

    What can I do to speed up the default notice? And can I ask them to backdate it to 2021?
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