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Given a parking ticket that had time left on it but now have been fined by a private comapny

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 132,172 Forumite
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    It's a really simple letter (see waamo's answer), in Dad's name, and maybe give them YOUR postal address as his 'address for service' of all letters from now on, so Dad doesn't see any of it and worry.

    He then signs the letter or you could just squiggle it as if you are him...!

    A SAR can indeed be a simple list of the data you want to see, and in this case it includes the data that caused them to make the decision that the driver had not displayed a valid ticket, and the notes made and photos taken.

    It's about flushing out the truth. And that is addressed to their DPO.

    And do an appeal in Dad's name as well, disputing that the driver did anything wrong and asking for their evidence that they intend to rely on if he chose to go to IAS stage.

    Two letters in one envelope, very easy.
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  • KeithP
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    Maybe setting up a new email address with your dad's name on gmail might be a worthwhile tactic too.
  • Coupon-mad
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    KeithP wrote: »
    Maybe setting up a new email address with your dad's name on gmail might be a worthwhile tactic too.
    Yes, and KeithP does not mean for you to teach your DAD to use it!

    YOU use it 'as Dad' and give your postal address for 'service of letters' from now on. As if it were his address.
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  • Redx
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    edited 17 September 2018 at 11:13PM
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    fair enough , but dont dither on the fence for too long or lose sight of the fact that the clock is ticking whilst you are cramming

    with respect to you and them , its one thing for others to say dont pay and ride it out, but they wont be the ones preparing a defence, the witness statement , the evidence bundle , or appearing in court if your father wants to put it to a judge

    if your father wants to do that , no problem, front it out for up to 6 years, but its HIS decision, not yours , so I am taking into accound his age and what you said about his circumstances at home

    I do not believe that you crusading for him is helping him , whereas my advice would be different if YOU had received the transferred ticket

    and in the last 6 years I have seen dozens of similar threads, which is why myself and others realised what the sc@m was so quickly, especially on Napier issues , as we have had many similar cases over the years on here. you need to be very careful with NAPIER

    the HAWORTH car park is notorious for this type of sc@m , and other sc@ms like ticketing anyone who goes off to get change etc

    this is not a one off, hence why we identified the scenario for you

    there is a deadline on the £50 offer, tempus fugit as they say

    so as its his name on the paperwork, its his decision, not yours

    it will be his name on any court claim in the future too (MCOL) , not yours

    I understand your frustration and sense of a family member being sc@mmed, but I think it means you have the red mist and are going round in circles, driving us batty because we are having to repeat ourselves

    ie:- you cannot see the wood for the trees

    I want what is best for your dad, not you, which is why I say , tell him to pay £50 and put it behind him , its not worth it for an 83 year old to have worry until he is nearly 90


    ps:- I told you all this in post #25 , and the previous posts identified the exact nature of this beast at a very early stage which allowed my summing up
  • Bond00
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    Redx sorry l am sending you all batty!! lts a bit of a mind field and l think l have overdosed on reading threads. I appreciate totally what you are saying. Thanks
  • Bond00
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    Coupon mad thanks l am much clearer on this now. I will update you on the car park development. Thanks for your help also.
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    KeithP very good suggestion thanks
  • Coupon-mad
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    lts a bit of a mind field
    minefield.

    Please not 'mind field'...people do that too often here, it's not even a phrase.
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  • Redx
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    just to show you ONE example of a previous case, read through this and you will see I gave you the same advice, except I have told you more about it

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5650798

    this is not an isolated case , they have form for it and you can tell I understood back then too , hence why I replied a lot on this thread of yours

    if I spent long enough on this I could find more examples , plus there are plenty of Napier threads where B W LEGAL Solicitors are chasing people up, especially recently

    just be sure you understand the implications of not paying the money, and be prepared to put time and effort into deflecting Napier and B W LEGAL, plus the time and effort of a court case if Napier decide to make an example of this one by them pushing for a C.C.J.
  • System
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    From the facts presented and in the absence of proof of there being a scam similar to Haworth, the OP would be best to tell his Dad to pay.

    The "scam" issue can be investigated later. Even if the lady was well meaning, and even if the comments here are well meaning, the facts are the Dad didn't pay in a P&D site. Judges treat these cases more harshly than overstays as these car parks are usually very clearly signed.

    If there has been a "scam" then if you present evidence to Napier, Napier will sort it.
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