Given a parking ticket that had time left on it but now have been fined by a private comapny

beamerguy

Quentin wrote: »

You should explain to your chosen recipient the danger that using your gift instead of buying their own means they could be using an invalid ticket.

People doing this in car parks had lead to the annoyance of having to input your reg now as well as buy a ticket!

But I never said I would give tickets away if I had even entered
my own VRN ... did I ????

Plenty of car parks where a VRN is not entered or required

One must not make assumptions

Bond00

Thank you to all who replied to me,l will get the correct info from my dad and have a proper look at the letter.l really appreciate all your help as l haven't a clue. When l googled about this it led me to this forum so l joined for assistance. I am so impressed with all the help you have given me so far.

Coupon-mad

You can't request evidence, as you are a stranger to the matter.

Your Dad should, as beamerguy said (I hope you noticed this is NOT an 'appeal?):

send a SAR to Napier asking who took the pictures and proof of their authority to do so

and for copies of notes and all photos taken.

You can obviously write the SAR for him, look on SAR threads here and copy/adapt. But it CANNOT come from you.

As they do not yet have the DVLA data, he should accompany his SAR with a copy of his V5 to show he is the registered keeper of the car.

beamerguy

Bond00 wrote: »

Thank you to all who replied to me,l will get the correct info from my dad and have a proper look at the letter.l really appreciate all your help as l haven't a clue. When l googled about this it led me to this forum so l joined for assistance. I am so impressed with all the help you have given me so far.

Do let us know please

Bond00

Beamerguy thanks for your help,l found that interesting that they have the self enforcement app. This means that anyone can be their representative, so what is to stop someone deliberately handing out a ticket and getting another person to use this app to photo the evidence. As such this car park could be making a particular individual and this firm a great deal of money. Is this legal?

fisherjim

Bond00 wrote: »

I do wish to point out that my Dad had every intention to pay,he was caught out looked at the ticket and was only planning a short visit. This car park was cheap.I will see his letter tomorrow, there was nothing placed on his car when he returned.

You must impress on your dad that the era of fluffy friendly car parking has long since gone, in fact car ownership these days has degenerated into a multimillion pound industry full of scammers, snoopers, rules, regulations and costs. The reason, it's easy, a traceable vehicle points straight to the keepers pocket!


Come back with more info, and follow the advice given here to appeal, the so called £50 reduced charge is just a bribe to get you to pay up and shut up!

Umkomaas

You can obviously write the SAR for him, look on SAR threads here and copy/adapt. But it CANNOT come from you.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5849784/june-2018-start-of-the-new-ppc-and-dvla-fightback-gdpr-related

KeithP

Bond00 wrote: »

This means that anyone can be their representative, so what is to stop someone deliberately handing out a ticket and getting another person to use this app to photo the evidence. As such this car park could be making a particular individual and this firm a great deal of money. Is this legal?

Yes, that is exactly the suggestion made by Redx over four hours ago - in the third post on this thread.

beamerguy

Bond00 wrote: »

Beamerguy thanks for your help,l found that interesting that they have the self enforcement app. This means that anyone can be their representative, so what is to stop someone deliberately handing out a ticket and getting another person to use this app to photo the evidence. As such this car park could be making a particular individual and this firm a great deal of money. Is this legal?

OK, to get data from the DVLA they need to belong to an ATA
(Accredited Trade Association) ... there are two, the BPA and
the IPC. Being members of either gets them access to the DVLA

However, the IPC is the biggest scam in the UK which Napier
belong to. The IPC was set up by Gladstones Solicitors
and the purpose is to extort money from the motorist

Government knows all about this scam but has failed to
protect the motorist ..... Sir Greg Clark MP has a new
bill going through which we hope will scupper these
scammers ..... worth reading the second bill ....

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill

So, Napier are classed as a scammer as they belong
to the scam IPC set up by Gladstones Solicitors

The SAR which you can do by email will give an insight
in what Napier are doing in this car park

They are legally obliged to reply

Bond00

Hello l looked at the letter,a photo of car and ticket. The machine doesn't require reg number.lt says mobile camera in use and ANPR but l can't see where. He said a person on his return waited till he was just about to pull out in a queue and took a photo.The person seemed to be using his mobile to take a photo of the machine. The time observed was a few minutes.The person taking photo didn't appear to be official.The car park is small. It has the old machine where you press the green button to issue the ticket.