smart meters

PennineAcute

Well, since moving over to a water meter, my bills have gone down around £60 a year.

My annual electricity consumption has gone down from just under 3200 in 2015 to 2500 this year. I have had smart meters for two years.

From my current tariff rates, that is a saving of £77.63.

So my gross saving is around £137 a year. Now the SM programme may be hiking my tariff prices, so the net saving may be less.

However, without them, I would definitely not be saving £60 a year on my water and probably not as much on my electricity. So yes, I am saving. Tell me I am not.

I do not care if my smart meters are now dumb as my IHD still works.

Quentin

PennineAcute wrote: »

Well, since moving over to a water meter, my bills have gone down around £60 a year.

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Hardly comparing like with like!

Water meters mean an entirely different charging structure than the previous way you paid (where you paid irrespective of how much water used)


Were it not going to save you there would have been no point having it installed!

Norman_Castle

PennineAcute wrote: »

Well, since moving over to a water meter, my bills have gone down around £60 a year.

Prior to having a meter your water bill was based on rateable value, nothing to do with consumption. My water bill halved after having a meter was fitted despite using the same amount of water.

PennineAcute

Maybe so, but a smart meter has saved me money,

However, let's take out the £60 savings and still quids in with a dumb smart meter and IHD,

Quentin

PennineAcute wrote: »

Maybe so, but a smart meter has saved me money,

However, let's take out the £60 savings and still quids in with a dumb smart meter and IHD,

What is the connection between the £60 reduction in your water bill following a meter being installed and your smart meter??


You don't see an automatic saving with a smart electricity meter like you do when a water meter is installed.


Assuming you remain on the same tariff having a smart electric/gas meter installed doesn't mean you will save a penny!


You are saving money because your consumption has gone down!

[Deleted User]

PennineAcute wrote: »

Maybe so, but a smart meter has saved me money,

However, let's take out the £60 savings and still quids in with a dumb smart meter and IHD,

https://www.smartme.co.uk/technical.html
Many early SMETS1 smart meters will magically regain smart functionality . This excellent link will answer many of the questions that people on here may need.
List of SMETS2 and SMETS1 models which will work smart after switching (eventually ) plus a Q and A section

brewerdave

Houbara wrote: »

https://www.smartme.co.uk/technical.html
Many early SMETS1 smart meters will magically regain smart functionality . This excellent link will answer many of the questions that people on here may need.
List of SMETS2 and SMETS1 models which will work smart after switching (eventually ) plus a Q and A section

As far as I can see, that site is just repeating the official party line - that the Govt. have decreed that early SMETS1 meters will be adopted - no details HOW - personally I still think it'll be consigned to the "too difficult technically" pile - so most will require replacement.

[Deleted User]

brewerdave wrote: »

As far as I can see, that site is just repeating the official party line - that the Govt. have decreed that early SMETS1 meters will be adopted - no details HOW - personally I still think it'll be consigned to the "too difficult technically" pile - so most will require replacement.

Looking at that list of SMETS1 meters suitable for adoption there are some commercial meters. The Landis Gyr g370 and e470 are fitted by BG s to domestics. .I don t think any of the really early smart meters are in that list. BG started fitting them over 10 years ago
Good to see the very commonly fitted Secure Liberty 100 in the list , used by nearly all the small suppliers and Eon, which will be adopted into the DCC. They are getting to be the most common meter fitted in the UK.
So if this link is to be trusted then they will suddenly start to function as smart one day in the not too distant future

Robin9

Houbara wrote: »

https://www.smartme.co.uk/technical.html
Many early SMETS1 smart meters will magically regain smart functionality . This excellent link will answer many of the questions that people on here may need.
List of SMETS2 and SMETS1 models which will work smart after switching (eventually ) plus a Q and A section

Thank you Houbara for this link.

My Smart meters were installed by Eon in 2015. The Gas (Elster BK-G4E) is on the list and gets its coms via the Electric (Elster AM110R) which is not.

I assume that the Gas cannot regain its Smart feature until the Electric is changed.

brewerdave

Robin9 wrote: »

Thank you Houbara for this link.

My Smart meters were installed by Eon in 2015. The Gas (Elster BK-G4E) is on the list and gets its coms via the Electric (Elster AM110R) which is not.

I assume that the Gas cannot regain its Smart feature until the Electric is changed.

Raises some interesting points re separate Utility suppliers. eg smart leccy meter supplied by Company A in 2017, smart gas meter supplied by Company B in 2018. - can the gas meter connect to Company B via leccy meter? I think not.
In Robin9's example above - keeps gas with EON but moves leccy to another company. Presumably BOTH become dumb??