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Landlord's obligation to remove wasps nest?

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  • rtho782
    rtho782 Posts: 1,189 Forumite
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    Glad you've got the situation sorted amicably.

    From what you've said the wasp nest is within the landlords fenced off garden (hence you couldn't see it). If my tenant or neighbour sent a workman into my garden (trespass) to kill wasps without talking to me (as you were at one point suggesting you might do) I would be furious.

    My default position is that I would rather find a way to avoid murdering any animal, even a load of wasps, but I might be talked into it in this circumstance. However, if you took it into your own hands and started trespassing in my garden to climb up the side of my house and do it, I would be very very annoyed.
  • Doozergirl
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    Woah! Expanding foam? He's going to block them in.

    Who lives underneath that nest?

    If you block wasps in, they'll just break out and be even more angry!

    My mother in law blocked wasps in earlier in the summer. They broke through the plasterboard ceiling and attacked father in law in bed!
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
  • CMCC90
    CMCC90 Posts: 20 Forumite
    Davesnave wrote: »
    Glad the situation hasn't come down to legal rights and so on.

    You're right, November is normally when the wasps die and the middle of that month is still 10 weeks away, so comments to the effect that they'll die soon, were probably of little comfort!

    The season when wasps stop feeding their young with prey and move on to fruit sugars is now. With the fallen fruit comes fermentation and drunken wasps, so we are also into the period when formerly well-behaved wasps become confused, aggressive and end up inside people's houses.

    What no one touched on here is the fact that there are various species of wasp with different characteristics. Many are fairly docile and do little to attract attention, unless provoked, which is maybe why some people couldn't seem to grasp that yours are not like that.

    Luckily for me, hornets are usually docile and not very interested in people. Mind you, when they do sting...

    Exactly, thank you! If it were a couple of weeks I might have left it, but November is just too far away. As you say, they would just get worse before it gets better, especially as there are fruit trees everywhere around here.

    These guys are the most aggressive ones I've ever encountered, and some of them are very large with a nasty sting. People probably think of solitary wasps when they think of relatively docile ones, from what I've read it's social wasps that are prone to attack, particularly near their nest. They probably think we are on their territory!
    Glad you're getting it sorted, and I'm sorry about the unreasonable response you've had on here. You had perfectly legitimate concerns and it's a shame that some people behaved much like the wasps!

    Thank you for saying so! Fending off the comments did feel very similar to swatting at the circling wasps. People will be people I guess, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they'd just had a bad day.
    Soot2006 wrote: »
    Oh dear what a thread!



    Have had similar experiences to you with aggressive wasps - resulting in 25 stings to me. People might say oh it's nothing, but each sting creates a small necrotised area (I'm not allergic, just the way I react) that itches for about 3 months and leaves a scar .. oh, and it HURTS. At that point I believed in live and let live - me and wasps had co-existed in my garden all summer. I knew where the nest was behind my shed, it wasn't very big ... Ha. Ha. Never again! Now when I see 3-4 wasps together I watch them suspiciously and if they have a nest near me, then I get up before light and exterminate it. The End. I also had a 2metre long nest under my compost pile. We thought it was "a few wasps" but it was thousands - needed a professional for that after a friend had to run for the hills after trying to get rid of it. The wasps can stay in the country side. I've nothing against them, but they can't peacefully share my space because they are terrible lodgers.

    Yes 1 or 2 stings a year is quite normal in the country, but almost every day is a whole different matter, I'm constantly dealing with some sort of painful swelling. Two weeks ago I was stung directly on an area where I have sores from contact dermatitis, it was agony and made my whole hand swell like a balloon. I'm going to have little scars all up my arms, my ribs, and my chest. I even had one sting me directly on my ear (surprisingly that one didn't hurt much).

    Your friend is brave going after a 2m nest, glad he got away safely! I agree, a few foraging in our garden is totally fine, that's fine, but having them live in the same space is just awful. I will also be far more suspicious in the future, come spring I will be watching out for any signs of a new nest and will have it destroyed before it gets to this level. Not sure if I'd have the balls to do it myself though :rotfl:
  • Smodlet
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    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Woah! Expanding foam? He's going to block them in.

    Who lives underneath that nest?

    If you block wasps in, they'll just break out and be even more angry!

    My mother in law blocked wasps in earlier in the summer. They broke through the plasterboard ceiling and attacked father in law in bed!


    :eek: I did not understand the previous reference to expanding foam being a bad thing until Doozergirl explained it (thank you) but it sounds as if you had better let the farmer know, OP.

    We have had a (small, I think) wasps' nest in the front garden and been dive bombed every time we use the gate. OH figured out where they were coming from and sprayed some lethal stuff at them, twice. Far fewer of the little illegitimates about now and those we deal with by burning citronella or Nagchampa incense when we sit outside. Wasps, if you're reading this, we have more spray, y'know...

    Good luck to you... And to your farming LL and I hope you and your puppy can enjoy whatever is left of the nice weather in peace.
  • pimento
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    CMCC90 wrote: »
    This is what I'm afraid the landlord will be thinking.

    A brief bit of research indicates that the nest will likely be somewhat active until November, or longer if it's a warm winter, particularly as it's a large nest.

    That's at least 65 more days of being trapped in our house, the puppy needs the toilet around 8 times per day during daylight hours, that's 520 more occasions where we have to risk harm to ourselves and our dog. I've been stung at least 5 times per week, sometimes more, and I'm reluctant to put up with this a second longer than we have to. It was different when we thought it was just the heat, but now we know it's a totally fixable problem.

    Best cough up, then.
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  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    pimento wrote: »
    Best cough up, then.
    Best read the whole thread !
  • Grenage
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    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Woah! Expanding foam? He's going to block them in.

    Who lives underneath that nest?

    If you block wasps in, they'll just break out and be even more angry!

    My mother in law blocked wasps in earlier in the summer. They broke through the plasterboard ceiling and attacked father in law in bed!


    This how motivated the farmer will be to remove the nest after he has trapped those wasps in his house.
  • Smodlet
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    Grenage wrote: »
    This how motivated the farmer will be to remove the nest after he has trapped those wasps in his house.

    ... Except they have already tasted the OP's blood...
  • Grenage
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    Smodlet wrote: »
    ... Except they have already tasted the OP's blood...


    It's a fine time for a holiday!
  • CMCC90
    CMCC90 Posts: 20 Forumite
    Davesnave wrote: »
    Best read the whole thread !

    Or even just reading my initial post would have done the trick!
    Grenage wrote: »
    This how motivated the farmer will be to remove the nest after he has trapped those wasps in his house.

    True! It sounded like the foam will kill them, but who knows. If they do break through it will be into his building not ours.
    Smodlet wrote: »
    ... Except they have already tasted the OP's blood...

    Many, many times. Just had another one inside the house doing everything he could to get another taste. Can't wait for this to be over.
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