No through road signs with cameras

LadyDee

prowla wrote: »

I would say that parent & child spaces have a number of useful purposes:

1. Allowing kiddies to get out of cars safely, rather than into the path of other cars.
2. Having a bit more space so that opening doors don't bang into adjacent cars.
3. Having space for parents to get small kiddies out of the car, rather than squeezing through a narrow half-open door.
4. Giving space for parents to set up buggies and get their kiddies into them without holding up other car park users.
5. Not requiring kids to cross roadways.

So I view them as a courtesy and am happy to lave them to their intended purpose.
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If only parents used them in the way they were intended. Trolleys parked full of shopping behind the huge cars which stick out in the roadway anyway, then while they're strapping one child in the car, other is doing its own thing and dancing around the trolley, then (usually) mum trying to persuade recalcitrant brat into the car whilst manouvring trolley in one hand and phone in the other.

sheramber

Iceweasel wrote: »

I think that many of the posters in this thread have never visited the MSE parking forum.

How can the disabled bays in private car parks such as supermarkets be enforceable when the info that comes with the blue disabled badge clearly states that they are only for use on-street and in council car-parks.

As a matter of principal I wouldn't park in a supermarket disabled bay anyway - but to my mind none of these private car parks in Scotland have enforceable charges against the keeper - not for overstaying, parking in the 'wrong' bay etc.

To me these 'parent and child' bays are just a gimmick and count for nothing.

How can the disabled bays in private car parks such as supermarkets be enforceable when the info that comes with the blue disabled badge clearly states that they are only for use on-street and in council car-parks.



That is why the local supermarket I mentioned arranged for the council to take over the car park so the disabled parking could be enforced.

Before the council took over the car park the local bobbies were the biggest offender of parking in the one at the supermarket door when they went in to nut their lunch or snacks.

As for parent and child spaces

How did parents manage before these spaces were around?

Why are they usually placed near the door. ? If a child is in the trolley then there is less danger pushing them to the entrance than controlling them in a busy area. Near the door is a busy area with shoppers and car passing or stopping to pick up.

I have only seen one supermarket where the parent/child paces were situated round the corner in a quiet part of the car park. More sensible in my view but guess what? It was empty.

Seems being near the door was more important than a parent/child place.

martyp

facade wrote: »

There are signs like that at my local (NewCross Hospital), as you could (at the right time) drive straight across the site and use it as a shortcut.
There are ANPR cameras everywhere, but I can't see what they could fine you for, as the Public have access to the site, maybe it is permissive access, based on having business inside the Hospital during specific times, and the fine is for some sort of trespass?

That's the situation at Bristol Parkway station I think, I nearly didn't go there as it had warning signs saying it was a private road, no through road and ANPR cameras which was deterring me actually using the train station for its intended purpose.

Deastons

Car_54 wrote: »

Does one need to know? Just don't park in disabled spaces, unless you have a blue badge.

Or if you're a paramedic and want to buy some lunch.

Ganga

Car_54 wrote: »

Does one need to know? Just don't park in disabled spaces, unless you have a blue badge.

Whilst i have never parked in a disabled parking space have seen many people park up,put the blue badge on the dashboard and run off to the shops and before everybody comes on here and informs me that the driver does not have to be the badge holder i still claim that SOME people abuse them.
I have parked in the parent/child space but that was when i drove a Transit van and could not get in a normal space without hitting someones car with the door.

DoaM

Ganga wrote: »

the driver does not have to be the badge holder

No they don't ... you're right.

Equally the badge holder must be in the vehicle and the use of the space must be for the benefit of the badge holder, not the driver. So if the driver parks in such a space, gets out and legs it into the shop whilst leaving the badge holder in the car, that's technically a breach of use of a disabled badge and would be subject to a FPN (in a council car park ... as said earlier the blue badge has no specific standing in a private car park).

Deastons

In my experience, it's the blue badge holder that abuses the system.

A friend of mine's Mum would always insist he took her blue badge. My wife's gran makes her blue badge available for anyone who might find it useful.

And I used to live next to a small block of flats that didn't quite have enough private parking spaces for all the residents, so a disabled resident would leave his blue badge in the communal hall so people could park on the double yellows on the road.

People complain when others abuse 'the system' but are usually happy to abuse it for their own gain (like speeding, cash-in-hand etc etc). At the end of the day, humans are inherently selfish.

Car_54

Johno100 wrote: »

But as Iceweasel quite rightly highlighted the Blue Badge scheme has no standing in private car parks and IMHO that is the case regardless of whether it's in Scotland and there is enforcement of the particular parking spaces under a TRO.

The provision of disabled parking spaces in private car parks is a requirement under the reasonable adjustment provisions of the Equalities Act 2010 (a UK wide piece of legislation). So anyone who meets the wider definition of disability as set out in the Equalities Act 2010 are quite entitled to use the disabled bays regardless of whether they have a Blue Badge or not.

I'm sure you're right. But those of us who are lucky enough not to have a disability don't need to worry about the details. Just DON'T.