Why Are The Lazy English Not Picking Our Fruits And Vegetables?

lisyloo

PokerPlayer111 wrote: »

So brits are also lazy because they will be refused work vs eastern europeans ?

No of course not !!
A person with children is not considered lazy by this society's standards if they care for their children.
In fact it's an offence to not care for children.


A lot of the eastern europeans who come here are fit, single and of enterepeneurial spirit, so it's not a level playing field to compare with the whole of the UK population which will contiain some elderly, disabled and people with child care requirements.


The small number of people unemployed in this country who aren't between jobs all have some kind of issue that stops that being ideal for employment - otherwise they wouldn't be unemployed.


Their issue may or may not be self-inflicted, but it's quite a small number who are just plain lazy when you take out those with health, childcare issues etc.
I believe the vast majority are NOT lazy.

Thrugelmir

lisyloo wrote: »

Or would you rather employ a fit, romanian with no ties?

If they are here working happily on their own accord then yes. Unfortunately many aren't. A major problem in itself. Not just referring to fruit pickers either.

lisyloo

Thrugelmir wrote: »

If they are here working happily on their own accord then yes. Unfortunately many aren't. A major problem in itself. Not just referring to fruit pickers either.

Agree.
I think employers should have an obligation to check that the people they employ are not slaves. An obligation that they cannot delegate to gangmasters.


If the only people that will do the job are forced into it then that implies we aren't paying enough for our fruit/veg ?


Yes I'd like to pay more for slave free fruit/veg jsut as with clothing.

Thrugelmir

lisyloo wrote: »

Agree.
I think employers should have an obligation to check that the people they employ are not slaves. An obligation that they cannot delegate to gangmasters.

Too frightened to admit it. Had their passports taken as well. Sad fact of life. This is gang culture of old.

gozaimasu

HPC_Ghuol_Hunter wrote: »

I thought Brexit was all about jobs for the English? If so why after so many EU workers have left are there masses of vacancies for fruit and vegetable pickers going unfulfilled? Who will pick the vegetables post-Brexit? :j:beer::money::T:rotfl:

Please stop substituting "english" for "British". Lots of produce, such as raspberries, are grown in Scotland. Are only the english people lazy but not the Scottish? What about the produce grown in Wales?

Nasqueron

kabayiri wrote: »

Plenty of Asian descent voters chose to vote Leave. This is reflected in the figures from those areas with high percentages of people from that background.

Some were quite vocal. They don't feel the Eastern Europeans fit in.

Are they racist too? Or maybe protecting their jobs (I favour the latter explanation)

ukcarper wrote: »

You don't have to be a racist to be opposed to unrestricted immigration.

Nice strawman gentlemen. I didn't say people who wanted to control immigration were racist, I said there were a hardcore element of racists who voted leave purely for immigration reasons. Not all leave voters are racist, but all racists voted leave, good bedfellows to keep. The result can be seen in the numerous factual and anecdotal reports of racist behaviour towards Europeans and even non-whites post vote and indeed, in the leave campaigns such as the poster campaign of migrants that Farage launched or the scaremongering about Turkey joining the EU and floods of Turkish Muslims coming to the UK. I hear plenty of anecdotes about people who voted leave because they thought it meant Asians would be sent home.

Nasqueron

PokerPlayer111 wrote: »

Provided they are physically capable then reason for laziness =



1.)Mental health
2.)Not wanting to be someone elses slave


Its hard to believe deep down people dont want to be productive.

Rubbish, even with the benefit cuts plenty of people would rather be another generation of their family doing nothing on the dole than go out and do hard manual work for a small amount more than they get on benefits. If British people wanted the work like fruit picking, cleaning and other "menial" jobs then they would have taken them and the only jobs going to Eastern Europeans would be the dodgy firms paying less than minimum wage in criminal gangs. Fact is when we leave the EU, unless we have some sort of work arrangement we will be incredibly short of workers for less appealing minimum wage jobs (ignoring the millions who work in the EU who'll be stuffed)

HPC_Ghuol_Hunter

gozaimasu wrote: »

Please stop substituting "english" for "British". Lots of produce, such as raspberries, are grown in Scotland. Are only the english people lazy but not the Scottish? What about the produce grown in Wales?

I get what you say however it was predominately the english that voted for Brexit, presumably on racial terms against furreners coming over here and taking their jobs. So now that said furreners are leaving and many, many jobs are going vacant why are the lazy english not snapping them up?

ukcarper

Nasqueron wrote: »

Nice strawman gentlemen. I didn't say people who wanted to control immigration were racist, I said there were a hardcore element of racists who voted leave purely for immigration reasons. Not all leave voters are racist, but all racists voted leave, good bedfellows to keep. The result can be seen in the numerous factual and anecdotal reports of racist behaviour towards Europeans and even non-whites post vote and indeed, in the leave campaigns such as the poster campaign of migrants that Farage launched or the scaremongering about Turkey joining the EU and floods of Turkish Muslims coming to the UK. I hear plenty of anecdotes about people who voted leave because they thought it meant Asians would be sent home.

You talk about strawman , you talk about hard core racists followed directly by saying 30% of leave voters voted leave because they are opposed to imigration perhaps you should have been more clear. Yes I expect all racist that voted voted leave but I don't think that people who wanted to leave should not have voted leave because of that.

toby3000

Herzlos wrote: »

It should be an ideal job for uni students - there's a (deliberate) overlap between school/uni holidays and when farm labour is required.

You'd have be a particularly stupid student to actively choose to spend your summer doing manual labour and camping in a field in the middle of nowhere when you can earn the same money standing in Top-Shop (within an easy commute of the house you have to pay rent on anyway), or considerably more money if you take a job at any restaurant.