Student co-renter rips off the house

dimbo61

Sorry I did not have the time to read all the posts but all the guarantors should have been supplied with a copy of the tenancy agreement before signing the Deed of guarantor form.
This would have the names of all the tenant's !
Now knowing Mandy first name and surname plus which university she attends should give you enough details to take the Cow ( tenant ) to court and get a CCJ.
Not sure how she can sub let and sue the other female student who is paying £750 a month to her if she stops paying Mandy and starts paying the Landlord

dimbo61

The deposit on student properties is at most one month's rent per tenant

dimbo61

Students do not pay council tax !
This can be a huge cost in large properties and Add an unwanted and unnecessary cost to shared living with other young people.
This is why you often get large groups of students living in student only properties.

Comms69

dimbo61 wrote: »

Sorry I did not have the time to read all the posts but all the guarantors should have been supplied with a copy of the tenancy agreement before signing the Deed of guarantor form.
This would have the names of all the tenant's !
Now knowing Mandy first name and surname plus which university she attends should give you enough details to take the Cow ( tenant ) to court and get a CCJ.
Not sure how she can sub let and sue the other female student who is paying £750 a month to her if she stops paying Mandy and starts paying the Landlord

Because if you rent a house or a room, you pay the person you have a contract with; not the mortgage lender for example

happyandcontented

silvercar wrote: »

Don't contact her on instagram, she will block you and you will be no further forward other than to warn her you are searching for her.

If she is studying law, I would be inclined to right to her parents. If they are disinterested they will bin the letter or pass it to her. If they are interested parents they will not want their daughters law degree wasted if she can't get articles because she has a CCJ or at risk of being taken to court!

In the same way that you are looking out for your offspring, Mandy's parents could well be looking out for her.

I would do this too initially. I would also write to her personal tutor at University who may well be inclined to have a word with her re issues arising career wise from this kind of underhandedness.

If I got no joy within a set timescale I would go down the CCJ route purely to teach her a lesson in honesty.

macman

As I've already pointed out, any sub-letting contract formed between Mandy and Mandy Replacement is null and void, because it breaches the tenancy agreement.

Comms69

macman wrote: »

As I've already pointed out, any sub-letting contract formed between Mandy and Mandy Replacement is null and void, because it breaches the tenancy agreement.

You’ve claimed that several times; it’s not true.

sal_III

macman wrote: »

As I've already pointed out, any sub-letting contract formed between Mandy and Mandy Replacement is null and void, because it breaches the tenancy agreement.

It's irrelevant to the discussion at this point, since according to the OP "Mandy's replacement" has already left.

As pointed by others, the Solicitor friend has given you false advise in this case. No disrespect, as I don't know all the details s(he) was given, but I would take any future advice from that person with a pinch of salt. The moment the Police hears about rent, tenancy etc. they will tell you it's a civil matter, to be taken to the LL/Council/Court.

It's also clear that there is no actual Deed of guarantee signed by the parents, so they are not liable for unpaid rent. Their children still are liable, so it's up to the parent's "good will" to "bail out" their offspring. LL has no recourse chasing Mandy's mother. If the LL chooses to let Mandy off the hook and pursue the remaining tenants for the rent instead, I would demand the details of Mandy and her Mom so the debt can be pursued.

Even though it's not a large sum, if divided evenly among the remaining 8 tenants, I would pursue this in small claims for the sake of justice and slapping a CCJ on the brat if she is foolish enough to ignore the LBA. This is obviously not a financial hardship on her part, but was done intentionally and with purpose and determination, so deserving a hard lesson in life.

I would also try to speak with the Uni, law students especially are supposed to uphold the highest moral standards, so there might be some recourse or pressure they can apply to Mandy.

westernpromise

sal_III wrote: »

law students especially are supposed to uphold the highest moral standards, so there might be some recourse or pressure they can apply to Mandy.

Things must have changed since I was at university.

This evidently no longer applies once they graduate.

davidmcn

sal_III wrote: »

I would also try to speak with the Uni, law students especially are supposed to uphold the highest moral standards, so there might be some recourse or pressure they can apply to Mandy.

If it's not a criminal matter then I don't see her choice of course is relevant (even assuming she would be going on to the legal profession, which not everyone does). There's no principle that lawyers shouldn't have CCJs (though actual bankruptcy can be a problem).