Process for Appeal - ECP

Kobweb1719

It was just a random private car park in the middle of Birmingham

Kobweb1719

I've checked the clauses around Grace Periods and it seems to suggest that it should be a minimum of 10 - mine was 29.... do I feasibly have an argument?

Coupon-mad

Kobweb1719 wrote: »

Apologies - Probably because I'm new around here - I looked at the FAQs and can't find Plan A....

You can't find the bit linking to Successful Complaints about PPCs?

'Plan A' is a phrase meaning the first step, and not a heading in the newbies thread.

Redx

Kobweb1719 wrote: »

Apologies - Probably because I'm new around here - I looked at the FAQs and can't find Plan A....

plan A is , complain to the landowner, or Managing Agent , or Retailer , or whoever employed the parking monkeys
a landowner cancellation is always the best option


this is also covered in that NEWBIES thread you said you had read, PLUS I mentioned it earlier

Plan B is , appeal using the template letter before day 26

Plan C is - appeal to POPLA

Plan D - is wait for an LBC and MCOL and have your say in your local court before a judge, within 6 years

Kobweb1719

So the car park is literally a gravel car park near the centre of Birmingham.

It does not belong to a retailer, hospital or anywhere logical to complain to.

Is there a way to find out who the land owner of a private car park is?

Redx

yes, try the Land Registry, it will cost about £3 (assuming google cannot help)

in your earlier post you said the overstay was 20 minutes, now you say its 29 minutes

and the BPA CoP dated January 2018 does not state its 10 minutes, read it again please

Coupon-mad

Or ask the local authority who pays the non-Domestic rates (not just 'who owns it'?).

Kobweb1719

Apologies about the time difference - it was 29 minutes.

I've taken a look and it says:
You should allow the driver a reasonable period to leave the
private car park after the parking contract has ended, before
you take enforcement action. If the location is one where
parking is normally permitted, the Grace Period at the end
of the parking period should be a minimum of 10 minutes.

Mine is nearly 3 times that - is that a reasonable argument to POPLA?

Redx

its not , no


however , you only looked at 13.4 and not 13.2


read it again and tell us what the grace period allowed should be, which conforms to your initial post and why I mentioned it , due to you stating it was 20 minutes

Coupon-mad

Mine is nearly 3 times that - is that a reasonable argument to POPLA?

Not unless you lay it on thick about the numerous attempts to pay by phone and why that took so long, with the onus being to lay the blame on the parking operator's app.