Process for Appeal - ECP

Kobweb1719

I've checked the Newbies Thread and done plenty of research this afternoon,

Basically someone received a ticket from Euro Car Parks for overstaying 20 minutes over 12 hour stay, despite numerous attempts to try to pay by phone etc.

It would be good to contest the invoice if possible and I'm thinking of the following:
1. Use the standard template letter found on here and send it to Euro Car Parks asking for it to be taken to POPLA.
2. Use the following POPLA Draft that covers
- BPA Code of Practice in relation to cropped photos and not time stamped
- No evidence of parking period - just time in and out
- No Landowner Authority
- Lack of signage / unclear signage
- The ANPR system is neither reliable or accurate

My Question is, how likely is it that the fine will be cancelled by POPLA and is a slightly tailored template draft ok?

KeithP

Just send the blue template appeal as it is.
Do not change it at all.
Send it as the keeper.

Wait patiently for your PoPLA code.

At the same time make a complaint to the landholder.

To answer your question... how long is your piece of string?

Coupon-mad

You've bypassed Plan A that will get it cancelled, the NEWBIES thread says do this FIRST:

- complain to the Store Manager or Head Office of the retailer, get it cancelled.

how likely is it that the fine will be cancelled by POPLA

Maybe 80% likely, with ECP that you will win. Several people lose...but no-one PAYS anything, no idea why the heck some people think losing at POPLA means they blinking well pay the scam!

100% likely if the Retailer tells them to cancel it. Now, your first step.

Redx

you used a 4 letter F word when its actually a 3 letter PCN , or use the word INVOICE, because its most definitely not a "fine"

as mentioned above, use the template letter "as is"

take it to POPLA, but also download and read the BPA CoP as well, checking out clause #13 , GRACE PERIODS, WHICH COVER THIS ALLEGED "OVERSTAY" COMPLETELY

nobody can tell you if an assessor will pass or fail an appeal, we have seen strange decisions before

let me just say that you "should" win on clause #13, never mind anything else

but as CM states above, you missed a trick in not getting a landowner or M.A. or retailer cancellation FIRST


plus , what happened on the day happened to the DRIVER, anything since has happened to the KEEPER , stay in KEEPER mode , no "MY , ME , MYSELF & I"

Quentin

Throughout here you are advised never to reveal who was driving


You need to edit your OP to remove details of the driver


The ppcs monitor here and can use your posts against you

Kobweb1719

How do I go about complaining to the landholder?

My concern is around sending generic POPLA emails from these forums as surely POPLA are cottoning onto it?

My question was more around given the number of cases on here, I wondered on average how many are approved by POPLA.

Coupon-mad

How do I go about complaining to the landholder?

Google is your friend. Complain!

KeithP

Whose car park was it?
With 'overstaying a twelve hour stay' it doesn't sound like a retail park or store car park.

A hotel car park perhaps?

The_Deep

You would have to ask PoPLA thosequestions.

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the House of Commons recently

http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41 recently.

and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.

Redx

Kobweb1719 wrote: »

How do I go about complaining to the landholder?

My concern is around sending generic POPLA emails from these forums as surely POPLA are cottoning onto it?

My question was more around given the number of cases on here, I wondered on average how many are approved by POPLA.

POPLA could not give a monekys about generic template appeals, most appeals use templates and then are adapted accordingly , parking companies, the BPA and POPLA all use templates, there are no issues with using templates

if somebody is guided by this forum or by pepipoo forums and chooses their words carefully, they stand a very good chance of succeeding

those who cobble some rubbish together or blab about what happened or who was driving often lose , especially people who use the following words

"MY , ME , MYSELF & I"


the POPLA DECISIONS thread at the top of this forum keeps track of winners and losers, please read it , from the end , backwards

Kobweb1719

Apologies - Probably because I'm new around here - I looked at the FAQs and can't find Plan A....