How to turn 3 points into soap on a rope...

wgl2014

AndyMc..... wrote: »

But you fail to realise no water in your washer bottle is a criminal offence so you need to be careful with your sweeping statements.

My previous post was regarding 'dishonesy' offences and I stand by it. There are any number of minor offences, road traffic or otherwise, that in themselves shouldn't make any difference to someone's employment however when the person starts concocting a string of lies to get off it changes things somewhat.

Politicions, Lawyers, Police (not a definitive list) should all be honest and trustworthy, when they are not there must be consequences above what a general member of the public would face.

AndyMc.....

wgl2014 wrote: »

My previous post was regarding 'dishonesy' offences and I stand by it. There are any number of minor offences, road traffic or otherwise, that in themselves shouldn't make any difference to someone's employment however when the person starts concocting a string of lies to get off it changes things somewhat.

Politicions, Lawyers, Police (not a definitive list) should all be honest and trustworthy, when they are not there must be consequences above what a general member of the public would face.

An honest politician:rotfl: you’ll be expecting estate agents and car salesmen to be honest next.

wgl2014

I did say 'should'!

AndyMc.....

wgl2014 wrote: »

I did say 'should'!

It’ll never happen in our current system. It starts at the top and you really trickles down.

TooManyPoints

I'll add a little to the pedantry (or more properly, "clarification":

"Wonder how long it is since she passed the driving test; six points is a ban for newer drivers IIRC"

Whilst a court has the power to order a disqualification for any "non-motoring" offence which may not normally attract such a ban, it does not have the power to award points for such offences. Perverting (or attempting to pervert) the course of justice can carry a ban if the court thinks fit but it cannot carry penalty points. The "New Drivers'" legislation which is referred to here applies only to drivers who accumulate six or more points within two years of first passing a driving test. It does not apply to those who receive disqualifications..Even more than that, drivers who fall foul of the New drivers' legislation are not disqualified from driving. Their licence is revoked by the DVLA when it is informed of their points. But a driver who has had his licence revoked under the regulations can immediately apply for a new provisional licence and can drive as soon as he has it (provided he complies with its conditions such as displaying 'L' Plates and being under supervision).

Mercdriver

Hermione_Granger wrote: »

Maybe, maybe not but if AndyMc realises that he is far from perfect and makes mistakes just like everyone else, then he might not be quite so pedantic in the future.

How common do you think it is for such behavioural correction to be effective on forums such as this one. I fear you were expecting too much

coffeehound

TooManyPoints wrote: »

I'll add a little to the pedantry (or more properly, "clarification":

Whilst a court has the power to order a disqualification for any "non-motoring" offence which may not normally attract such a ban, it does not have the power to award points for such offences. Perverting (or attempting to pervert) the course of justice can carry a ban if the court thinks fit but it cannot carry penalty points. The "New Drivers'" legislation which is referred to here applies only to drivers who accumulate six or more points within two years of first passing a driving test. It does not apply to those who receive disqualifications..Even more than that, drivers who fall foul of the New drivers' legislation are not disqualified from driving. Their licence is revoked by the DVLA when it is informed of their points. But a driver who has had his licence revoked under the regulations can immediately apply for a new provisional licence and can drive as soon as he has it (provided he complies with its conditions such as displaying 'L' Plates and being under supervision).

Thanks for the useful info, TMP. I realise my previous post wasn't clear. I was thinking out loud that if she would have fallen foul of the two-year rule, and risked losing her licence due to accrued points, that would be bad news both in terms of publicity and loss of the use of private transport. And therefore that might have motivated any alleged scheme to avoid taking those points herself.

Loanranger

Labour politician lying. Hardly new, is it?

Car_54

Loanranger wrote: »

Labour politician lying. Hardly new, is it?

No, but Tories and Lib Dems have also done jail time for perjury or perverting the course of justice.

Loanranger

Car_54 wrote: »

No, but Tories and Lib Dems have also done jail time for perjury or perverting the course of justice.

Agreed but you'd think a Labour politician would have more sense having seen prison sentences doled out for similar. But if you are arrogant enough to believe that the rules dont apply to you then yes it's totally understandable. But then Labour have lost the last three general elections and look pretty much unelectable anyway so it hardly matters from a reputational point of view.