Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

mayonnaise

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Didn't realise that we now need to put buckets out to catch the water we require. :rotfl:

You're so funny, Thruggles! :rotfl:

We used to have something called reservoirs.
Thames Water sold many of those to developers to make a quick buck.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/drought/9236909/Thames-Water-accused-of-mismanagement-by-closing-two-dozen-reservoirs.html
To now blame foreigners for water shortages is a bit rich.
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cogito

There is also growing EU membership concern about the adoption by the EU of the UN-driven Marrakesh Declaration which basically turns all migrants into refugees with almost certain asylum status, bans deportation and legalizes any migrant who has successfully crossed your border, thus illegal immigrants become legal.

The EU is furious that Hungary has refused to sign up to it and other eastern members are considering following suit.

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

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There is none, because our government are incompetent. I've never said otherwise.
But why not address the problem (government incompetence) instead of the symptom (migrants driving up population faster than infrastructure can handle)?
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Well, maybe I am a realist. No recent government has been elected on the basis of tax rises. The public mood does not support it.

In fact, tying back to Polish people, the ones I know seem to believe we spend TOO MUCH on state subsidy. I think they have a point.

Tell you what. When we have a government who have really improved the roads & rail & shown a few consistent years of house building beyond 400K, I might even agree we are getting realistic. But we are way off that right now.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

mayonnaise wrote: »

To now blame foreigners for water shortages is a bit rich.
But to be expected from the alt-right bigots on this thread.

Aye.

When it's so blindingly obvious that all these 'problems' they try to blame on immigrants are in fact either non-existent or entirely of our own making, the true motive behind such posting is clear...

kabayiri

cogito wrote: »

There is also growing EU membership concern about the adoption by the EU of the UN-driven Marrakesh Declaration which basically turns all migrants into refugees with almost certain asylum status, bans deportation and legalizes any migrant who has successfully crossed your border, thus illegal immigrants become legal.

The EU is furious that Hungary has refused to sign up to it and other eastern members are considering following suit.

The Open Border fanatics on here would have you think it's so easy.

Just open the doors, let everyone in, they will say. They won't live in an area changed by rampant migration though.

How many billions of Euros is George Soros willing to commit to backing these Open ideas? What a socialist !

cogito

mayonnaise wrote: »

To now blame foreigners for water shortages is a bit rich.
{Edited by Forum Team}

But that's not what was said, was it? But then it's only to be expected from far left {Edited by Forum Team} on this thread that they will take a reasonable question about how we would ensure adequate facilities for a population increase and make it into an example of xenophobia.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

But that's not what was said, was it? But then it's only to be expected from far left bigots on this thread that they will take a reasonable question about how we would ensure adequate facilities for a population increase and make it into an example of xenophobia.

It's another example of blaming migration for bad UK governance. Though to be fair it was mostly clutching at straws - as the population increases we'll need to expand things like reservoirs (and would have been a lot better off keeping them instead of selling them off, but that's nothing new).

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

There is also growing EU membership concern about the adoption by the EU of the UN-driven Marrakesh Declaration which basically turns all migrants into refugees with almost certain asylum status, bans deportation and legalizes any migrant who has successfully crossed your border, thus illegal immigrants become legal.

Can you explain to me how this Marakesh Declaration, which is about "defending the rights of religious minorities in predominantly Muslim Countries" can turn all migrants into refugees with almost certain asylum status?
I just can't see the link. I guess you're saying they can claim to be a persecuted minority and then claim asylum, but that's the opposite of what the declaration is stated to do, so presumably it closes off that loophole?

Herzlos

kabayiri wrote: »

Tell you what. When we have a government who have really improved the roads & rail & shown a few consistent years of house building beyond 400K, I might even agree we are getting realistic. But we are way off that right now.

I've been doing my bit - I've voted for a government that has been trying to improve services, housebuilding and infrastructure. I even pay more tax because of it.


Our efforts should be focused on trying to do something about the problem, instead of kicking the can down the road chasing bogeymen. Preventing migration will make matters worse, not better.

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

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Our efforts should be focused on trying to do something about the problem, instead of kicking the can down the road chasing bogeymen. Preventing migration will make matters worse, not better.

I personally have always championed the idea that improving productivity through technology is the best way to raise living standards, whilst maintaining a place worth living in.