Can someone give me some advice

pink_boots

Because of the new MOT tests, my faithful little very old car will need to be scrapped. I am loathed to part with her but after having her for 8 years, I have really got my monies worth several times over. Apart from the usual replacements of tyres, light bulbs and so forth. The biggest outlay I have had is a new Cat. 5 years ago and she has sailed through her MOT 4 years in a row. The problem is, I have absolutely no idea about how to go about scrapping a car. Also their is five months car tax left and I know that you can now get a refund but again do not know how to go about that. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

AndyMc.....

Phone up one of your local car breakers or scrap yard and ask the if the want it. Tax will be refunded automatically or you can sorn it, you've got a couple of weeks to sort the tax as you'd only get refunded from August.

AdrianC

pink_boots wrote: »

Because of the new MOT tests, my faithful little very old car will need to be scrapped.
...
she has sailed through her MOT 4 years in a row.

So what's the change in the post-May test that you're so worried about?


There really aren't that many additional things to be tested.

The problem is, I have absolutely no idea about how to go about scrapping a car.

Phone scrap yard. Scrap yard collect car. Sign paperwork. Wave goodbye to car.

Also their is five months car tax left and I know that you can now get a refund but again do not know how to go about that.

When the paperwork gets sent to DVLA, it's automatic.

angrycrow

Before you declare it dead what part of the new test do you think it will fail on. For around £35 test fee may be worth taking a chance.

My mother in law just did the same with her 4x4 expecting it to fail due to the engine light being on but it passed. Engine light problem on her car cannot be resolved and does not effect emissions or running so it passed. This was a 2004 registered vehicle.

Joe_Horner

AdrianC wrote: »

So what's the change in the post-May test that you're so worried about?


There really aren't that many additional things to be tested.

Possibly EML that's been ignored for the past few tests because it still passed emissions on the day?

AdrianC wrote: »

Phone scrap yard. Scrap yard collect car. Sign paperwork. Wave goodbye to car.

Alternatively (if it still has some MOT): Phone scrap yard, drive car to scrap yard, get a better price, get someone to give you a lift home.

mrmechanic

angrycrow wrote: »

My mother in law just did the same with her 4x4 expecting it to fail due to the engine light being on but it passed. Engine light problem on her car cannot be resolved and does not effect emissions or running so it passed. This was a 2004 registered vehicle.

Which is clearly a fail whether it passes the emission test or not.
A Mil illuminated or inoperative fails.There is no middle ground, clear fail.
Station issuing a pass would be in serious trouble if DVSA picked up on this although nothing to do with your mother in law.

reddwarf2002

mrmechanic wrote: »

Which is clearly a fail whether it passes the emission test or not.
A Mil illuminated or inoperative fails.There is no middle ground, clear fail.
Station issuing a pass would be in serious trouble if DVSA picked up on this although nothing to do with your mother in law.

Yep, definitely a fail. MOT tester must have turned a blind eye to it or does not know the new law.

reddwarf2002

Having said the above, this article doesn't mention the engine management light which has got me confused now:


https://conversation.which.co.uk/motoring/new-mot-rules-warning-lights-car-safety/


(I'm sure it's wrong though)

consumers_revenge

As above, what has/will it fail on? Bit of outlay and you have a car you know and can use for another year?

mrmechanic

Straight from the testing manual.

Engine malfunction indicator lamp
Turn on the ignition and check that the engine malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) illuminates and then goes off. On some vehicles it will be necessary to start the engine before the MIL goes off.

Defect Category
Emissions levels exceed the manufacturer’s specified limits
Major
Emissions levels exceed default limits
Major
Lambda coefficient outside the default limits or the range specified by the manufacturer
Major
Emissions test unable to be completed
Major
Engine is idling clearly above its normal idle speed
Major
Exhaust emits dense blue or clearly visible black smoke for a continuous period of 5 seconds at idle
Major
Exhaust emits excessive dense blue or clearly visible black smoke during acceleration which would obscure the view of other road users
Major
Engine MIL inoperative or indicating a malfunction
Major

AdrianC

angrycrow wrote: »

Engine light problem on her car cannot be resolved

That's a cop-out. Of course it can. It might prove to be more expensive than she wants to spend, but it can be resolved.

and does not effect emissions or running so it passed. This was a 2004 registered vehicle.

There is no age limit on the fail for the engine management light indicating a fault.
8.2h
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/manuals/class3457/Section-8-Nuisance.html#section_8.2


Engine malfunction indicator lamp
Turn on the ignition and check that the engine malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) illuminates and then goes off. On some vehicles it will be necessary to start the engine before the MIL goes off.



h. Engine MIL inoperative or indicating a malfunction - Major